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Re: Did they ghost you?

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Post by harimau777 »

rzzzt wrote: post #21
ryandrake wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's obviously a difficult problem to write rules around, and there are so many ways for companies to weasel out of any rule you write. The general principle is that you should not advertise a job if you don't actually intend to fill it. But you should also not do it if you have some "theoretical job" you can create and are just fishing for candidates. Any rules I write down here will have trivial ways to work around…

But this is an issue with all legislation (or tabletop game design), right? You also don't want to fall on the opposite end of the scale where the people tasked with prosecuting these violations are allowed to go just by feel.

At this point I'd be completely fine with just going by feel. It would be better than what we have now.

Re: Did they ghost you?

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Post by matchbok3 »

OptionOfT wrote: post #95
inigyou wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's probably because they don't want to be liable for giving a reason.

Which should be illegal. You should be able to formulate why you prefer someone. And it would prevent companies from ghosting people.

Making this "illegal" does not solve the problem at all. People really need to stop providing this knee jerk outlawing reaction to things they don't like. I assume you'd also make it illegal for a person to turn down a company without a reason, right? How about we make that 6 months in prison.

Re: Did they ghost you?

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Post by yallpendantools »

jasonjmcghee wrote: post #4

Based on the strange emoji use in place of some buttons, I'm guessing this is vibe coded- and a lot of this is really nice looking front end - great color, topography, border styles... Would be interested to know how much intervention there was or if this is where we are

Is https://didtheyghostyou.com/companies/robert-half an artifact of vibe coding you think? Robert Half is apparently an HR consulting firm but in TFA it links to a very sus `https://www.google.com/aclk`. What an oversight given the assurances that submissions are reviewed and moderated. Or is Google outsourcing HiRing to Robert Half now?

Re: Did they ghost you?

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Post by throw-the-towel »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #43

Those are quite small sample sizes. I assume that this is supposed to grow? In my experience, I was usually ghosted (sometimes, rather brutally). In a couple of instances, I was able to get the companies to confirm that I was toast, but only after I bugged them.

Did follow ups ever help anyone get a job?

Re: Did they ghost you?

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Post by profunctor »

fourseventy wrote: post #103
ButlerianJihad wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have participated in at least 3 rounds of vocational rehabilitation, and one of the major takeaways was writing thank-you notes after any interview. A note could be a card or an email, but a thank-you note simply expresses gratitude for the interviewer’s time and attention. And moreover, a followup will keep your name in their mind, for better or worse. Following up after the interview series may have been the tric…

I was recently interviewing candidates for a senior software engineer in Boston. I did about 20 interviews and only got 1 follow up/thank you email. I didn't send rejection emails to candidates that didn't send a follow up.

This is probably bait but FYI it’s not normal to send thank you emails in much of the world following an interview so perhaps consider that not everyone thinks like you and it’s not a slight to receive no thank you emails. Where I live a thank you email would be seen as a strange way for someone to sneakily try to persuade you to hire them outside of the proper interview process. If you don’t get an email you may just be dealing with someone not from your culture.

Re: Did they ghost you?

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Post by ipaddr »

BigTTYGothGF wrote: post #113
sccvcxv wrote: post #70

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It should be illegal to ask for references - the purpose of the interview is to understand your capabilities and abilities. If they couldn't suss all about you in that process then they have a shitty interview process.

If you can't get three people to vouch for you, honestly or otherwise, then that's a pretty big red flag.

It's usually last manager and co-workers where the company has a policy of not allowing references. Plus who wants to bother other people asking for a reference after you've been working for 25 years.

Re: Did they ghost you?

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Post by nabbed »

After several interviews with a big telecommunications company, I got a verbal job offer from the recruiter over the phone. I accepted. They said the formal job offer would be coming in the next week or so.

I never received the formal job offer. I called after a month and was told not to worry, it was still happening. I think I called again after 3 months, but stopped thinking about it after that.

Eventually I went to work for an internet company (which also delayed the formal job offer for several months. Deja Vu! But only because the background checking firm was having trouble completing the background check).

This was in the mid-aughts.

Re: Did they ghost you?

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Post by uberduper »

chrismarlow9 wrote: post #100

Ghosted by Apple here. Devops or SRE job for services teams if I'm remembering right. Did a months worth of rounds. Was told the offer letter would be coming within the next week. Turned down other companies on the gamble that it was actually coming. Never came. Pinged recruiter and finally after a month was told they stopped hiring and would reach back out in a few months when it started back. Never happened. That w…

I got ghosted by Apple after traveling to Cupertino to do some phone interviews from an Apple conf room. I'm pretty sure I've been blacklisted there for reasons unknown. Their recruiters reach out from time to time and after a couple messages back and forth, they too ghost. I've even been referred by friends which results in a conversation with a recruiter that ghosts me shortly after.

I'm pretty good at what I do and I'm not weird. All the conversations seemed to go well so I have no idea what happened.

Re: Did they ghost you?

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Post by jimmydddd »

decimalenough wrote: post #50
kulahan wrote: post #46

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Imagine being a recruiter, seeing someone genuinely interested in the position (or at least willing to put in the effort to make it seem that way), and getting annoyed rather than hyped. You in the wrong line of work, brother.

I presume the previous poster is one of many interviewers, not the recruiter. As an interviewer myself, I get where they're coming from. My email is not shared with applicants, so finding it requires some stalking or at least digging me up on LinkedIn. By the time they reach out, I've already put in my notes, and any final decision is out of my hands. So while I'm not going to hold it against them, it's not a particu…

As an interviewer, you should be aware that there is a split on advice given on this topic. Half of the folks say to send an email, and half say not to. Several recruiters have told me that, all things being equal, a company will take the person who seems most interested in the job.
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