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Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by saidnooneever »

Tepix wrote: post #40
Aachen wrote: post #16

I'm a member of Codeberg and was allowed to vote on these amendments. There was the annual assembly meeting before the ballots were sent by email. Each proposal had a short presentation and a few minutes of Q&A. It wasn't a discussion (the text was final at this point), it was just to ask for clarifications. In the meeting I asked about the server load that they mentioned in their presentation, but misphrased it and…

There was also a discussion on the codeberg forum. Anyway, I hope this new rule will be overturned in the future. I think it invites arbitrariness and besides, whether or not a project was vibecoded (and how much) doesn't really decide how useful or even how well-written it is.

it would be better to encourage people not to have agents create repositories. i think that is the actual issue they want to tackle, while people manually making projects and then having AI write code should obviously be allowed at this point. it will only evolve more, and people can trivially hide it by instructing the LLM and doing manual commits :/

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by saidnooneever »

Aachen wrote: post #47
Aachen wrote: post #16

I'm a member of Codeberg and was allowed to vote on these amendments. There was the annual assembly meeting before the ballots were sent by email. Each proposal had a short presentation and a few minutes of Q&A. It wasn't a discussion (the text was final at this point), it was just to ask for clarifications. In the meeting I asked about the server load that they mentioned in their presentation, but misphrased it and…

So I voted against, partly because I feel that the text doesn't to justice to such a multifaceted topic. If all projects on Codeberg were human-written, that would be a big seal of quality! There are a lot of projects coming out now where someone feels like they've made a cool thing but it breaks on the first edge case and is entirely unmaintainable. Many are built on wrong principles because the prompt authors aren'…

you say human code is better but in reality it is not. a lot of human code is garbage. i am sure if youd look at mine you would be horrified. moritified. a lot of people just have fun with it.

what you imply is only wanting 'professional' projects on there written by professional programmers. This seems like some exclusive membership would be more adequate. no need for fees, just invite the people whos code you like to see -_-

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by exiguus »

exiguus wrote: post #496

When I read the issues thread on Codeberg, it reaffirmed my decision to self-host my Git repositories and mirror them to GitHub, GitLab, and Codeberg. At the time, I chose this approach because Codeberg already had its "no private repos" rule in place. I know they don't ban all private repos, but still, I wonder: Did they have bad experiences with private repos, LLMs, or crypto projects? Or is this a preemptive measu…

The facts I was missing (also in the article):

The changes made by Codeberg e.V. are:

First:

> 7. You must not share projects that mostly consist of code written by "generative AI"-tools (including services such as Claude, OpenAI Codex). Such projects having an unclear copyright status (see requirements § 2 (1) 1 and § 2 (1) 3) and furthermore have little safeguards to ensure that they do not include harmful code (c.f. § 2 (1) 5).

Second:

> - Content that harms the reputation of Codeberg, such as cryptocurrency related projects.

Now, I know them. IC no issue.

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by inigyou »

mschuster91 wrote: post #560
inigyou wrote: post #454

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was never much of a problem on the old internet. It's just something corporations made us feel entitled to. You don't use the same memorized password for all your really unimportant accounts and forget about them after you're done? There's always the email option, too. "Found a bug? Email bugs@example.com." - that's the original decentralised discussion forum.

> It's just something corporations made us feel entitled to Entitled? It's a necessity due to everyone and their dog either getting hacked or selling email addresses to spammers outright.

If you're on HN surely you have your own domain. Give out servicename@domain.com and block any that spam you

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by _the_inflator »

I understand Codeberg's standpoint. From their point of view I think it is only reasonable to sticking to your guns as well as mentioning, that at the end of the day there is no free lunch and LLM coding may be bloat to them.

I know the European scene since the 80th and know, that all projects are not what the rest of world think they are: free, and an alternative to anything that is US based.

European software devs are activists in the old-school meaning. In the 80th, they were crackers, hackers, and they looked for likeminded people. BTX scandal is only for very old veterans, as well as von Gravenreuth or Highscore.

I was part of the C64, Amiga scene and still have many friends their. Nevertheless we have very different attitudes today.

Without any irony I finally hope that people finally value that is provided by GitHub or other services from the Valley.

Trashing them or thinking, you just needed to host a service outside the US makes it a viable option is naiv.

I respect EU's and European devs' decisions, but I would never ever rely on them. I love the US and happy to be almost 100% not using European services.

Yes it reads "Software development, but free! Codeberg is a non-profit, community-led effort..." but you didn't know Germans or the fineprint. Codeberg is organized as "eingetragener Verein" and here you have the basis for what is considered free: https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/src/branch/main/en/bylaws....

Folks, this is politics, this is power struggle, this is what Germans call "Grabenkämpfe". If you aren't used to the lifestyle, you won't understand nor enjoy the ride.

I build an extremely successfully eV myself which still lives and thrives for 30 years now - without me.

Value GitHub, stay away from European "alternatives". They aren't.

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by ragall »

allarm wrote: post #543
ragall wrote: post #506

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> The last Codeberg story that popped up here just this week was something about them banning Bitcoin. At that pace you should worry whether you're next. No. LLMs and blockchain are the same kind of shit.

What do you mean by no? Can you read their minds? Their reputation suggests that, yes, they’ll likely block something else.

Your words betray your prejudice, nothing more.

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by robin_reala »

nylonstrung wrote: post #162
robin_reala wrote: post #106

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Uh, I thunk you’re underestimating the community around most of those. BDFL doesn’t mean single-contributor.

No all of these examples have historically been single contributor

1,500 curl authors: https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2026/07/25/1500-curl-authors/

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by witx »

Hendrikto wrote: post #346
witx wrote: post #310

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What? Free software was never neutral. You think Stallman and Torvalds did what they did because they were neutral? If I dont like the direction an open source project is taking and I fork it. Does make it less free? By your line of thought project should all have MIT licenses because you should not add restrictions

> You think Stallman and Torvalds did what they did because they were neutral? Is that a joke? Both have made it abundantly clear that yes, this is their stance. Let me quote literally the FIRST freedom RMS put into writing: > The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose. This is explicitly free and neutral. "for any purpose", no restrictions. Linus endorsed this stance by licensing the kernel under GP…

GPLv2 s far from being neutral
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