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Why Sony can't bring back its classic Walkman models

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Re: Why Sony can't bring back its classic Walkman models

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Yes, that is the primary reason people just want it but not enough people to buy the thing same happen with physical games

Does that mean capitalism is not an efficient system to meet the needs of well-informed consumers? Why am I being lumped in with an 8 year old who asks their parents to buy them an online game? There should be a market for physical media and devices with physical buttons if people exist who want them. These companies won’t work on anything that doesn’t bring them a gazillion dollars, so billion/million dollar venture…

capitalism is the most efficient system ever

the statistic literally says it all, any person that think otherwise its delusional

Re: Why Sony can't bring back its classic Walkman models

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Absolutely, and that's something I've tried to highlight in the FAQs on the site - limitation breeds creativity. It makes you appreciate the media just a little bit more. One of the best places to have MD is in a car. You can quickly identify (by unique color or label) each disc, which is either a full album presented as the artist intended or a playlist you curated. There's no "shuffle all 5000 songs" or "here's a p…

The other place I've thought I'd like to go back to MD is just sitting in bed and listening to some music. I don't want to fiddle with my phone and get blasted by light from the screen. I don't want to swipe through an infinite list of all music known to man. I don't want to wait for an app to update, page to load, song to buffer or pop-up upselling me to need to be dismissed. I want to listen to music I own, on a de…

All 100% true. Just watch out for dead batteries (especially rechargables, because there are no Low Self Discharge Ni-MH gumsticks)

Re: Why Sony can't bring back its classic Walkman models

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I was looking at the Pico first when writing that, but you would need a SD card header. Small issue - I use one for my Dreamcast controller Maple>USB bus.

You already need to add a decent quality DAC/Amp, might as well add a SD card slot at the same time. On top of the lower power consumption, another advantage of the pico is that you can actually buy the raw RP2040 or RP2350 chips (for roughly $1) and make your own custom PCB.

I was investigating this further and found Tangara (https://cooltech.zone/tangara/)

You may need to build it yourself, but it looks like everything a HN-using MP3-buyer would want.

Re: Why Sony can't bring back its classic Walkman models

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Yes, that is the primary reason people just want it but not enough people to buy the thing same happen with physical games

Does that mean capitalism is not an efficient system to meet the needs of well-informed consumers? Why am I being lumped in with an 8 year old who asks their parents to buy them an online game? There should be a market for physical media and devices with physical buttons if people exist who want them. These companies won’t work on anything that doesn’t bring them a gazillion dollars, so billion/million dollar venture…

From the article:

> even sales in the tens of thousands might not recover the development and tooling costs

If you're looking for an argument against capitalism, this wasn't it.

Re: Why Sony can't bring back its classic Walkman models

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post #178

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IOW, it was also technically hard for Sony to launch the original Walkman, but they overcame the difficulties, because they expected a huge market success (which followed). Now the product would be niche, and what had been originally built for its production became unavailable. The effort to stand up it all over again would not pay off.

The first Walkman from the late 70s was just an existing Sony portable cassette recorder (the TCM-100B), but with the mono head replaced with a stereo head and the recording functionality removed. Once that first unit proved there was a market, they were able to continually re-invest the money into miniaturization and new features so by the mid-90s Walkmans (Walkmen?) were high-quality cassette players that were bare…

The jump from TPS-L2/WM-1 to WM-2 was ENORMOUS. Like, WM-2 was TINY - 75% the size of TPS-L2/WM-1. They were almost done before they got started! I know I got one Xmas 1981 and it was stolen in 1984 but now I have 3x.

Re: Why Sony can't bring back its classic Walkman models

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That would be "some sort of enthusiast audiophile flac player thing that costs way too much" The entry level Walkman is $400 and only has 32gb internal storage. It's all about flac and hires audio but you're paying through the nose for the brand

In 2005 the iPod with 30 GB of storage was $299 ($511 in today's dollars) so the entry level Walkman is actually fairly comparable to Apple's pricing from back then. You can use some of the $100 you're saving to buy a 256 GB MicroSD card to load more music onto.

You have to apply equal opportunity inflation. The worth of 30gb portable memory in 2005 is not the same as the worth of 30gb in 2026. During that time, when I was in school, I remember my dad getting antsy about lending me his 64mb flash drive for school presentation because he paid $60 for it.

Re: Why Sony can't bring back its classic Walkman models

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I just stated it above. Because I don't want a touchscreen, I want to eventually replace the battery when it starts going bad, I want a good software experience along with it. Fiio can't even keep their site in order. They have broken links everywhere. Nothing about it makes me think it isn't just another shitty Chinese-made disposable.

They're good at hardware - that being said no idea how easy it is to replace their batteries. The only devices I've used from them don't have touchscreens. Maybe your better off with something like a refurbed iPod

At this point, I can only assume you're trolling.

Re: Why Sony can't bring back its classic Walkman models

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post #175

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You already need to add a decent quality DAC/Amp, might as well add a SD card slot at the same time. On top of the lower power consumption, another advantage of the pico is that you can actually buy the raw RP2040 or RP2350 chips (for roughly $1) and make your own custom PCB.

I was investigating this further and found Tangara ( https://cooltech.zone/tangara/ ) You may need to build it yourself, but it looks like everything a HN-using MP3-buyer would want.

Power consumption seems a bit high. Other than that, looks awesome.

I checked, the 2nd gen iPod mini can get 18 hours of listening on a 400mAh battery, with a spinning HDD. This is getting 20+ hours listening with a 2200mAh battery and solid state storage.

Not that 20+ hours of listening is bad, I just expect a player with a battery that large to do quite a bit more.

Re: Why Sony can't bring back its classic Walkman models

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Does that mean capitalism is not an efficient system to meet the needs of well-informed consumers? Why am I being lumped in with an 8 year old who asks their parents to buy them an online game? There should be a market for physical media and devices with physical buttons if people exist who want them. These companies won’t work on anything that doesn’t bring them a gazillion dollars, so billion/million dollar venture…

capitalism is the most efficient system ever the statistic literally says it all, any person that think otherwise its delusional

Is it, though?

Rule of thumb: when a fanboy asserts that any person holding an alternative view is defective, you should immediately abandon the fanboy's position and adopt the alternative view. It's heuristically more likely to be correct, and it gets you out of an odious fan club.

Case in point: China proceeded through stages of development more efficiently than any western nation. Case in point: South Korea incubated its industry in a command economy.

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