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Re: 98.css

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Post by efreak »

jordanscales wrote: post #121
Gabrys1 wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox (Nightly) on Android: tabs don't work: when clicking on a tab, the URL changes, there's a slight jump in content, but the new tab is not selected. Hope this helps

The tabs on the home page aren't wired up because doing so requires JavaScript > Tabs should be managed by adding custom javascript code. All you need is to add the [aria-selected=true] attribute to the active tab.

I have a vague feeling that tabs should be doable in pure CSS/HTML, but I might be thinking of menus (where the menu is a sub element of the button and thus visibility can depend on mouse position)

Re: 98.css

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Post by efreak »

fodkodrasz wrote: post #103
nitin7 wrote: post #94

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I think the button shouldn't appear if the user doesn't have the access to do it (eg. not an admin, has view rights only, etc). However, if the user can and they expect to do it, but is in a mode/state which doesn't allow them to do it, greyed out buttons absolutely. In some cases, greyed out buttons should be clickable (eg. forms) and that should tell the user what is wrong. Looking at you, billion dollar airline, w…

> Also, what happened to hover messages and little (?) marks? Every software behaves like it expects me to know what to do from Day 1. I truly hate fast-food kiosks for this reason: most expect me to be familiar with their offerings and the menu system of that kios. I relatively rarely visit such places and I was better off with a human asking me 1-3 short questions and paying. I'm not paid to know this shit, I'm the…

Younger people love not having to wait in line. If I'm really hungry and I'm stopping at McDonald's because it's the only place close enough to the bus stop, then I want to order and pay, not wait for the person ahead of me. If I only have one item at the market/drug store, I want to use a self-checkout machine, and I don't want to be waiting behind someone with a cart full of items who doesn't know they have to actually unload their cart for the cashier, or who decides to go back for "one more thing" that happens to be at the back of the store where they get caught up talking to someone they know.

Re: 98.css

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Post by efreak »

xboxnolifes wrote: post #104
nitin7 wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the button shouldn't appear if the user doesn't have the access to do it (eg. not an admin, has view rights only, etc). However, if the user can and they expect to do it, but is in a mode/state which doesn't allow them to do it, greyed out buttons absolutely. In some cases, greyed out buttons should be clickable (eg. forms) and that should tell the user what is wrong. Looking at you, billion dollar airline, w…

I agree for admin stuff, but certain lack of permissions hiding stuff is annoying. It's nice for things to be disabled and have a hover text explaining why it's disabled. Also, yes, (?) and hover text in general is severely underused in popular software. I wish every button or menu option that has a shortcut would show me its shortcut on hover or in-place so I didn't have to find it in the manual or buried in the set…

Worse is when the hotkey is underlined but doesn't actually work (multiple buttons with same hotkey, and instead of switching between them it just doesn't do anything. Admittedly this is rare). Or when the list is an MRU that can be navigated with the first letter of the item names, but some letters are reserved for static functions (looking at classic shell start menu: I can't start certain programs from the MRU or pinned list without the mouse because (A)pps Sh(u)tdown (S)ettings are reserved. Numeric helps with MRU, but can't be used in multiple places for the same reason)

Re: 98.css

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Post by DigiEggz »

sphars wrote: post #39
jordanscales wrote: post #23

Author here! This was my burnout recovery project and holds a place near and dear to my heart. https://notes.jordanscales.com/98-css-reflections

Thanks for creating this, it fit perfect for a tiny web site I made[0]. Hits just the right mix of usability and nostalgia and makes me want to use it for more projects. [0]: https://www.mathsheets.net/

I went straight for the "circles" background. 98 UI and art will never tire me.

Re: 98.css

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Post by neya »

masklinn wrote: post #93
neya wrote: post #82

Is there a version for Windows 7 as well? Because, that was the last good design from anyone from that era and everything just went downhill after that.

https://khang-nd.github.io/7.css/

Thanks!

Re: 98.css

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Post by rbanffy »

Honestly, I think Windows 2000 was peak coolness. XP was too colourful and it went down from there. Windows 8, 10, and 11 look OK, as they toned down the XP, Vista, and 7 visual noise.

Re: 98.css

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Post by rbanffy »

jordanscales wrote: post #23

Author here! This was my burnout recovery project and holds a place near and dear to my heart. https://notes.jordanscales.com/98-css-reflections

It’s a job well done. I personally liked 2000’s colour choices, but 98 managed to look modern enough a couple Unix window managers decided to copy it.

As my GUI look of choice, I’d be between IRIX and OpenWindows. Motif always looked a bit unfinished and CDE was a child of its time - who sets up printers?

Re: 98.css

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Post by rbanffy »

vibbix wrote: post #48
jordanscales wrote: post #23

Author here! This was my burnout recovery project and holds a place near and dear to my heart. https://notes.jordanscales.com/98-css-reflections

Thank you so much for your project! I have spent the last few months working on my own retro computing CSS library, but instead inspired by BeOS https://beta.mtechnic.me PS: while doing research on my project, I found your portfolio site as well. Was shocked to see we had the exact same taste in music, and genuinely made me curious if everyone whose doing retro throwbacks libraries did as well.

There was a time I replaced most Windows icons with their BeOS counterparts using a resource editor messing with the MORICONS.DLL (IIRC).

Re: 98.css

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Post by RedShift1 »

montag wrote: post #43
jordanscales wrote: post #23

Author here! This was my burnout recovery project and holds a place near and dear to my heart. https://notes.jordanscales.com/98-css-reflections

I used 98.css as starting point for the Winamp theme in https://chiptune.app . It was very easy to modify and extend, thanks!

I hear some pops and clicks every now and then when playing music... Using Vivaldi 8.1.4087.56 (Official Build) (64-bit).
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