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Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by Hendrikto » Fri, Jul 24, 2026, 4:22 PM UTC

inigyou wrote: post #417

Hendrikto wrote: post #303

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Of course nobody is obligated and I never claimed that. In fact, I fucking hate the LLM hypetrain. But this decision is decidedly non-neutral and non-free.

What would a neutral free SaaS look like to you?

Simple: Provide the same freedoms to everybody. Do not get involved unless absolutely required to by law. That entails not restricting access for specific projects, and not revoking freedoms for any reason. Everybody should get the same treatment.

For example, in the case of being overloaded by AI contributions, a neutral solution would be to implement the same rate-limiting for every project. Set a sensible limit, and enforce it universally. Do not discriminate specific projects.

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by inigyou » Fri, Jul 24, 2026, 4:22 PM UTC

duxup wrote: post #437

It’s interesting how many revolutions and even small efforts surrounding the concept of freedom very quickly go from “freedom” to “no actually I mean freedom for things I like”. It’s a constant pattern. Principles are hard I guess.

I know. So many platforms don't provide freedom for CSAM.

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by inigyou » Fri, Jul 24, 2026, 4:24 PM UTC

Ekaros wrote: post #220

selfhoster1312 wrote: post #158

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Freedom of expression does not mean my non-profit has to spend its resources to give you a platform. I'm not a member of Codeberg eV, but i strongly approve their decision. We need more hosts with a mission, especially when it comes to AI and promoting human-crafted resources.

I feel that decades of dumping by VC and advertisement supported platforms have really lead to massive entitlement. People really feel that they should have full right to use any amount of "free" resources for anything. Even if they are the only ones using it. For resource limited platform selecting their focus is just right. It would be like running food bank in some extremely rich neighbourhood. And people living t…

We've gotten used to stuff like GitHub just existing, the same way Windows (up to XP) just exists. If you have a Windows XP computer it keeps working indefinitely. Corporations dumping taught us to expect the same with online services that need constant maintenance.

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by inigyou » Fri, Jul 24, 2026, 4:25 PM UTC

mschuster91 wrote: post #204

FireInsight wrote: post #19

> Despite not owning a single project that falls into either banned category, I’m now going to look into setting up my own public Git host That's.. good, actually. I believe that even if Codeberg was good and perfect for every use case of code hosting, not every one and every project should be there. Vibe-coders, shitcoin cryptomaxis, and lovers of total freedom surely have other places to go and are able to set up f…

> Seriously, we should let go of the idea that all of humanity should be part of a single Data Silo on the internet. There's a reason these came to be in the first place though, and accounts are among the most prominent ones. A new forum means not just registering at yet another place, it also means creating a new label/folder in your email inbox and a new filter rule to properly redirect stuff. That's friction.

That was never much of a problem on the old internet. It's just something corporations made us feel entitled to. You don't use the same memorized password for all your really unimportant accounts and forget about them after you're done?

There's always the email option, too. "Found a bug? Email bugs@example.com." - that's the original decentralised discussion forum.

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by MetroWind » Fri, Jul 24, 2026, 4:26 PM UTC

I don't understand why people still bother with these kind of choices anymore. Why not just write your own service and self-host? I just vibed a git hosting thing and it has been running fine for some months.

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by selfhoster1312 » Fri, Jul 24, 2026, 4:26 PM UTC

animesh wrote: post #435

selfhoster1312 wrote: post #180

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Not really. See https://docs.codeberg.org/getting-started/faq/#how-about-pri...

Sorry, but I do not understand. Can I host a repo publicly at least while it is still in initial development stages? For example, I have two repos that have been in development for more than 2 years. I intend to show case them and continue them as open source, but I will probably be the only user for a while. These two predate AI/LLM advancements, and I am pretty anti-AI for non-professional use cases. As someone put…

Sure, i linked the docs about private repos specifically. Public repositories of FLOSS are the mission of codeberg, minus slopware and shitcoins (the subject of this thread). I thought the FAQ was pretty clear about that, but if that's not the case, i guess PRs are welcome to improve it.

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by 0rzech » Fri, Jul 24, 2026, 4:28 PM UTC

inigyou wrote: post #450

0rzech wrote: post #170

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Interestingly, nothing happens in my case, even after unblocking JS on their site. I suppose it's because I do block JS by default.

The JS file has been quietly removed.

Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks!

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by inigyou » Fri, Jul 24, 2026, 4:28 PM UTC

jasonvorhe wrote: post #95

vintagedave wrote: post #18

The most insightful part is: > [From CodeBerg] It seems like many ‘vibe coders’ don’t realize that they don’t actually have a community around them. > This is out of touch with how most free software gets made. The majority of FOSS developers are one-man-shows Yes! And LLMs can be valuable to solo devs! > The decisions did go through Codeberg’s own Assembly 2026, which is more process than most platforms bother with,…

When I read this quote I also had to think of this tante person on Mastodon urging their thousands of followers to vote for a certain thing. If one actor like this can possibly impact a small community this way, I'm on the cautious to sceptical side about that community project's future.

So it's bad that someone can say how they think people should vote? Aren't you also saying how you think people should have voted?

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by adamddev1 » Fri, Jul 24, 2026, 4:28 PM UTC

Hendrikto wrote: post #303

adamddev1 wrote: post #302

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They're not obligated to deal with the higher load brought on by people's LLM coded projects, CI pipelines etc. In order to keep things freed up and flexible for others, I think it's fair for them to say, "in this community, we're going to save the space for more hand-coded projects." It's not fair for everyone to have to eat the costs of AI (like communities getting bulldozed for data centers) and just accept that i…

Of course nobody is obligated and I never claimed that. In fact, I fucking hate the LLM hypetrain. But this decision is decidedly non-neutral and non-free.

Fair point, but I mean perhaps it's not fair for them to have to impose usage limits (which would limit everybody) when they could just make a decision to avoid certain types of projects (which they feel strongly about.)

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by inigyou » Fri, Jul 24, 2026, 4:29 PM UTC

veganmosfet wrote: post #87

Same. I moved to codeberg because of the non-commercial and "freedom" aspects. I enjoy vibe-coding tools for different applications, e.g. for prompt injection research. Now I will probably move back to Github. I accept this decision but I am quite disappointed by the ideology and black & white view. LLMs are a fascinating technology created by us humans, and they have the potential to make our life better. We shall s…

Why not ask your AI to create Vibeberg?