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Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by AlexeyBelov »

fodkodrasz wrote: post #289
matheusmoreira wrote: post #192

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> On the other hand this will definitely devolve into name calling and vigilantism. No doubt. Just look at Lobsters. A quality filter would have been more effective.

Lobsters is the definition of a toxic community. Here at least you can create a throwaway account to have a controversial opinion. There you need vested invited, and get banned if you post some uncomfortable truth. Been there, done that. Same goes for mastodon.social.

Maybe it was an uncomfortable falsehood? I've found this is much more often the case.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

selfhoster1312 wrote: post #678
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #677

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You say yourself you didn't even see all the comments. Look you can be "anti-AI" all you want. I think this is a crude way to exist in the world -- positioning oneself morally on category rather than contingency -- but fine. But I expect basic decorum in a community. And what I got from those posts was: we decided people who used these tools are not part of our community -- are bad people who have "crossed a line" --…

> You say yourself you didn't even see all the comments. Yes, and i'm not claiming you're wrong in your feeling that some people were excessive about this. Though i could argue that LLM deployment has been excessive too and this is a very minor comeback compared to the pressure people have faced to adopt LLM tools (eg. at work) or let new AI datacenters ruin their neighborhoods and electricity/water networks. > it's…

> I'm glad you feel relieved, and i'm sorry you lost time and energy in a collective where you don't fit in the end.

Grade school social behaviour.

Try to be a better person.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by ____mr____ »

mlrtime wrote: post #497
____mr____ wrote: post #372

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> the maintainers of Codeberg do not believe that they are a "coffee hosting service" that neutrally hosts code from a variety of perspectives. They do not believe this because this is simply not the reality we live in > Their view is that hosting code is a political act and this is backed by the donations funding Codeberg's operation. They are correct in this view. No matter how "apolitical" platforms like Github an…

No, it's not. If you see everything through these political lense, you end up constantly in a us vs them mentality. Or a "you're either with us, or against us". I don't think it's healthy.

It really is. Hosting requires a server owned by a company or private individual located in a country. The goals of these companies/individuals and the pressures put on them by their countries are quite political - and as a result hosting becomes political.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by iamnothere »

inigyou wrote: post #669
iamnothere wrote: post #632

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Yeah, well we’ll see what the future holds. Based on past experience, without well-defined procedures, I expect activists will eventually seize control of the process and go after devs/projects that they have personal grievances with. I will not use or recommend Codeberg until they put some structure around this.

Okay? They're not asking you to use or recommend it. In fact they prefer that you don't.

Great, we’ll see how that works out for them then.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by ____mr____ »

veeti wrote: post #529
____mr____ wrote: post #372

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> the maintainers of Codeberg do not believe that they are a "coffee hosting service" that neutrally hosts code from a variety of perspectives. They do not believe this because this is simply not the reality we live in > Their view is that hosting code is a political act and this is backed by the donations funding Codeberg's operation. They are correct in this view. No matter how "apolitical" platforms like Github an…

Do you also see your local library hosting Mein Kampf as statement of support for fascism on part of the librarian?

No, but it is a result of international western politics that Mein Kampf is widely available to read

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by ____mr____ »

inigyou wrote: post #623
veeti wrote: post #529

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Do you also see your local library hosting Mein Kampf as statement of support for fascism on part of the librarian?

I think it's generally understood that people read Mein Kampf because they want to understand Hitler and not because they agree with him.

Not always! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk3lcEeoEy8

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by dbmikus »

rakoo wrote: post #488
dbmikus wrote: post #72

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But the identity part of git is not (unless you count pgp signing of each commit, which never took off at a large scale) and the git tools don't automatically propagate repo changes by default across a network

The identity of a repo is its url so yes, the identity part is decentralized

Identity is more than a name. It is also proving that you own that identity (aka authentication)

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by inigyou »

____mr____ wrote: post #686
inigyou wrote: post #623

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I think it's generally understood that people read Mein Kampf because they want to understand Hitler and not because they agree with him.

Not always! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk3lcEeoEy8

Not always, but usual. It isn't that strange for a library to have a copy and it isn't that strange to check it out although the librarian is definitely checking you for swastika tattoos.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by cush »

inigyou wrote: post #667
cush wrote: post #616

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> Literally every rule… Imagine for a second if that were actually the case. Most rules are determined by physics, science, data, or something tangible. Food safety, aviation, electrical codes, even sports rules are based on math and statistics.

Not wanting to die of dysentry is a random popularity vibe. What if the people did yearn for the toilets?

The only thing that's random here is your liberal interpretation of the word random

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by selfhoster1312 »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #682
selfhoster1312 wrote: post #678

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> You say yourself you didn't even see all the comments. Yes, and i'm not claiming you're wrong in your feeling that some people were excessive about this. Though i could argue that LLM deployment has been excessive too and this is a very minor comeback compared to the pressure people have faced to adopt LLM tools (eg. at work) or let new AI datacenters ruin their neighborhoods and electricity/water networks. > it's…

> I'm glad you feel relieved, and i'm sorry you lost time and energy in a collective where you don't fit in the end. Grade school social behaviour. Try to be a better person.

Well, i guess that's what i get for trying to sympathize with someone i disagree with. I have also been this person who doesn't fit in a group but only realizes too late. My bad for thinking we were having an interesting and honest conversation.
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