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I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by infecto »

zelphirkalt wrote: post #317
chmod775 wrote: post #250

Keeping up with this stuff is for people who define their identity through virtue signalling and whatever personality trait they have decided to make the problem of everyone around them. Let them have their little corner of the internet and just stay away. There's plenty of alternatives run by people who don't feel the need to bring their personal baggage into a cooperative environment.

Are you consciously choosing to completely ignore large parts of Codeberg's explanations, regarding the amount of traffic they get from one-man LLM shows, and additionally completely fail to consider the type of organization, that Codeberg is, in order to label this as merely virtue signaling?

Sure but wouldn’t the sensible rule be implementing a user rate limit?

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by skinfaxi »

customguy wrote: post #260
venussnatch wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Define resources and create a better limit then. 10 small code-only projects will take orders of magnitude less storage, bandwidth and cpu than one project with committed image and sound assets.

And as long as it's hand-made, that's fine.

What is hand made code? Does that mean no auto complete? No linters?

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by kappyuware »

itsmartapuntocm wrote: post #9
Rendello wrote: post #4

If you click to another tab, the site changes its title and favicon to a random webpage like: - Pick up lines suggestions – ChatGPT - Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up - Youtube - Amazon.com: waifu pillow When you go back to it there's an overlay chastising you for allowing JS on an untrusted website. I thought it was pretty funny. You can see the list of fake pages in the source (which has the sketchiest URL eve…

I feel like it's a bit ironic that the blog post chastises Codeberg for taking a stance and then does the same with JS.

One of them is a website that hosts source code from other users, their "stance" is arguably more important because of that. The other one is just a personal blog, completely different subjects. I created an account just to reply to this.

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by zyx321 »

pelasaco wrote: post #322
zyx321 wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can one argue with a straight face that people will learn to code better by using a predominantly AI-based workflow? Or even learn by reading vibecode uploaded by someone else? Hell, I'd argue that Vibecode without the prompt that generated it isn't even real open source.

Can you argue that you could learn to code better, copying and paste code from stack overflow? Who wants to learn, learns.. we did without Internet, and I still learn with AI.. btw, is in the "Satzung" from Codeberg e.V something about "learn to code?

Did you... read my post? The first thing I posted in this thread was a direct quote from the Satzung. Did you think "education" was about learning the history of the Ottoman Empire..?

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

astrobe_ wrote: post #297

Codeberg already had relatively strong opinions before that; their Terms of Use also says: "the right to use the content for any purpose, including both commercial and non-commercial purposes" "Note, however, that the Creative Commons licences with Non-Commercial (NC) or No Derivatives (ND) restrictions are not licences for free cultural works and thus do not fulfil the licensing requirement" So yes, "the deciding fa…

There is a legitimate and probably significant set of people who agree with the pro-free software, copyleft, non-commercial etc outlook but don't have the same analysis of AI and LLM-generated tooling. There was nothing in the terms of use prior to this move to indicate those tools were out of bounds or that those opinions were unwelcome. Nor anything about tool use at all.

All those people were just told they're not welcome.

BTW the nuance in the blog post is retroactive and done after the vote was completed. The vote had no such nuance and requests for clarification were refused.

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by andsoitis »

beepbooptheory wrote: post #330
chmod775 wrote: post #323

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are you consciously choosing to completely ignore Yes. Let me stop you right there: Yes, absolutely. Whatever they claim their reasons are, it's not my problem. I don't care. The last Codeberg story that popped up here just this week was something about them banning Bitcoin. At that pace you should worry whether you're next. Which is why my advice is: Avoid the headache. Go somewhere else.

I get your point but by your own reasoning here you can't ignore these things because you are also choosing to be principled in your own way here, right? Like you need to know, at the very least, what to avoid if you absolutely must steer clear of all the politics you hate right? Like if you don't even know and choose not to know, how will you have the early warning that the SaaS is gonna ban your hypothetical crypto…

One helpful way to think about is to what extent your principles are rooted in emotions or rigidity, or whether your principles are rooted more in realism and practicality.

Put differently: are you making decisions based on principles that are crafted with the goal of CHANGING the world? Or are you making decisions based on principles that are crafted to NAVIGATE a dynamic, fuzzy, ever-changing world?

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by andsoitis »

Are you making decisions based on principles that are crafted with the goal of CHANGING the world? Or are you making decisions based on principles that are crafted to NAVIGATE a dynamic, fuzzy, ever-changing world?

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by sigilsack »

ErroneousBosh wrote: post #308
layer8 wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are these plentiful alternatives? SourceHut also comes with “personal baggage”.

docker run data.forgejo.org/forgejo/runner:12 forgejo-runner I thought this was supposed to be a site for hackers? Apply some Hacker Nature to the problem.

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Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by sigilsack »

FabCH wrote: post #213
bsder wrote: post #169

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Yeah, I really wish all the people whining about Codeberg would give us all pointers to free alternatives that don't have these restrictions. And, if those alternatives don't exist, well, you now understand why Codeberg is taking the position they are.

https://github.com

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