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Re: Building on ATProto

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Speaking about Tangled, is there an article somewhere about how they use ATProto ? Like what are in the records and all

You can check yourself using https://pds.ls , just open any handle there that has Tangled repos

It's very interesting, thank you very much

https://pdsls.dev/at://did:plc:wshs7t2adsemcrrd4snkeqli/sh.t...

Re: Building on ATProto

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The intention is good. I like the reviews idea. Since the author has hit the limitations of ATProto, could ActivityPub be an answer?

I really think ATProto is decentralized "the right way" for the general public. So I would very much like it to support this kind of thing.

Re: Building on ATProto

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You guys are really confused about what atproto has to do with Bluesky and how much of the protocol is developed by or managed through Bluesky. It really seems you all think the only company or community doing anything on atproto is Bluesky, when that couldn’t be further from the truth. Have you even paid attention to what’s happening lately?

Well the whole protocol relies on a "PLC server". There can only be one and guess who owns it.

Who owns it?

Re: Building on ATProto

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> you don't see the CTO coming to chat about it. Speaking as the CTO at Element (and proj lead for Matrix), i feel like i've spent a bit too much time coming to chat about Matrix on HN over the years ;) That said, I agree that Bluesky is doing well in terms of breaking through into mainstream awareness - much more so than Matrix (although obviously big-world-social-media is something of a different beast to distribut…

Matrix's biggest blocker is that it doesn't work very well . You try it, you get a worse experience than Discord, you switch back to Discord. I hope the Matrix project figures this out one day.

What do you hope they'll figure out by ambiguous feedback like this? What exactly is worse? Is it possible it's just different, and that translates to "worse" although maybe it's actually on purpose? What specifically is it that doesn't work well for you?

Re: Building on ATProto

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> A restaurant review is a restaurant review whether I am the only one who ever sees it or it gets shouted to the rooftops. A book review I share with my book club is identical to a book review I share with my wife or publish on my web site.

That is only true if you completely ignore social context and relationships between the subject (reviewer), the object (the reviewed) and the audience. The author does mention being autistic, so perhaps he doesn't see it this way, but to me it would be very important to have a system where anything I record for a narrow audience doesn't become available to the public.

The thing though is that I've been so conditioned to not trust digital platforms that I never publish anything online unless I am 100% comfortable with having that information available to the public. So, in effect, I'd never put anything on my PDS unless it was meant for public consumption, rendering all this "permissioned data" effectively pointless.

Re: Building on ATProto

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> A restaurant review is a restaurant review whether I am the only one who ever sees it or it gets shouted to the rooftops. A book review I share with my book club is identical to a book review I share with my wife or publish on my web site. That is only true if you completely ignore social context and relationships between the subject (reviewer), the object (the reviewed) and the audience. The author does mention be…

> it would be very important to have a system where anything I record for a narrow audience doesn't become available to the public

That's precisely what the author is arguing.

Re: Building on ATProto

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post #73

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Matrix's biggest blocker is that it doesn't work very well . You try it, you get a worse experience than Discord, you switch back to Discord. I hope the Matrix project figures this out one day.

What do you hope they'll figure out by ambiguous feedback like this? What exactly is worse? Is it possible it's just different, and that translates to "worse" although maybe it's actually on purpose? What specifically is it that doesn't work well for you?

As an example, deuxfleurs.fr, a french non-profit host, mentions issues with notifications, message history, and message searching as reasons to leave matrix in their latest newsletter: https://blog.deuxfleurs.fr/2026-bilan-de-la-rencontre-ete-20...

Re: Building on ATProto

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> A restaurant review is a restaurant review whether I am the only one who ever sees it or it gets shouted to the rooftops. A book review I share with my book club is identical to a book review I share with my wife or publish on my web site. That is only true if you completely ignore social context and relationships between the subject (reviewer), the object (the reviewed) and the audience. The author does mention be…

> it would be very important to have a system where anything I record for a narrow audience doesn't become available to the public That's precisely what the author is arguing.

Yeah, sorry, you probably saw my comment before I updated with the last paragraph.
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