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Re: Building on ATProto

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the cultiness is why I left crypto and atproto, it plagues many great ideas by creating in and out groups around opinions on the right way to do things

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Wow. Irrespective of what the other commenter did to you outside of this thread (assuming you two have a history) your comments (this and others) here feel indeed like trolling and almost egging.

Someone mentioned you are the CTO at BSKY, is this true? (Here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49029317)

Are you the CTO? If you are then this just feels like a red flag and kind of tells me as a user to look at this protocol/ecosystem (which truly is BSKY at the moment) with much caution.

Re: Building on ATProto

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post #28

I switched from codeberg to tangled, and the transition couldn't have been smoother. Being on the ATmosphere really helps with peace of mind.

I love tangled, but there are certain repos I don't want public. So with all ATProto data being public you can never have a private repo which is disappointing.

That’s not going to be true for much longer.

Re: Building on ATProto

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post #27

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We don't even get paid to be in this cult, that's how organic it is

Apologies if "worship" came across as calling you a cult, but it doesn't seem that you took what I said too seriously either. Good luck on ATProto, certainly don't want to deal with this kind of replies from you or Dan every time criticism or concerns come up, maybe once the protocol leaves BlueSky, but let me guess, it's planned for some point in the far future like every other concern?

You guys are really confused about what atproto has to do with Bluesky and how much of the protocol is developed by or managed through Bluesky.

It really seems you all think the only company or community doing anything on atproto is Bluesky, when that couldn’t be further from the truth.

Have you even paid attention to what’s happening lately?

Re: Building on ATProto

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apologies if "worship" came across as calling you a cult, but it doesn't seem that you took what I said too seriously either. Good luck on ATProto, certainly don't want to deal with this kind of replies from you or Dan every time criticism or concerns come up, maybe once the protocol leaves BlueSky, but let me guess, it's planned for some point in the far future like every other concern?

Seriously, the entire separation of Bluesky from ATProto not happening is my main reason for not trusting it at all. You can't have a protocol owned by a for-profit entity and seriously call it "open"

Huh.

Tell that to LSP, QUIC, SPDY, GraphQL, WebRTC, BitTorrent, HTTP/2, and other protocols.

I guess they weren’t “open” either for the first 5-10 years of their existence either?

Weird.

Re: Building on ATProto

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post #27

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We don't even get paid to be in this cult, that's how organic it is

the cultiness is why I left crypto and atproto, it plagues many great ideas by creating in and out groups around opinions on the right way to do things

Really strange, considering there’s more debate, disagreement, and lack of conformity in atproto than I’ve ever seen in crypto.

I think you might mean, “people who disagree with me intensely because they believe strongly in the way they view things.”

Atproto is very, very far from a cult. It is a bunch of poasters, though, and nobody should be surprised when a social protocol has a bunch of, well, really social people in its leadership, and you shouldn’t expect them to act like senior leadership of Intel, IBM, or Nvidia.

The fact Paul makes jokes on a social forum at or with people is a reminder that he’s a human. He’s smart, passionate, nerdy, talented, and sometimes extremely annoying, much like everyone else here, and I’m GLAD the leadership of the company and the protocol are as engaged with the community as they are.

It’s a social protocol, for god’s sake. Remember when everyone would complain that the people who ran Twitter would never use it? I do, and just because Elon is down the K-hole and a posting menace doesn’t mean the criticism was incorrect.

Re: Building on ATProto

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I switched from codeberg to tangled, and the transition couldn't have been smoother. Being on the ATmosphere really helps with peace of mind.

Speaking about Tangled, is there an article somewhere about how they use ATProto ? Like what are in the records and all

Re: Building on ATProto

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I created a web-of-trust forum built on ATProto. https://caterpilla.rs

Probably one of the most fun projects I’ve ever worked on, and I largely attribute that to the protocol.

I’m particularly interested in the permissioned data spec, but don’t want it to hold me back, so some functionality is on ice, and I went live without it.

Re: Building on ATProto

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I switched from codeberg to tangled, and the transition couldn't have been smoother. Being on the ATmosphere really helps with peace of mind.

Speaking about Tangled, is there an article somewhere about how they use ATProto ? Like what are in the records and all

You can check yourself using https://pds.ls, just open any handle there that has Tangled repos
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