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Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by imtringued »

BoxwoodSeed wrote: post #31
Rendello wrote: post #4

If you click to another tab, the site changes its title and favicon to a random webpage like: - Pick up lines suggestions – ChatGPT - Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up - Youtube - Amazon.com: waifu pillow When you go back to it there's an overlay chastising you for allowing JS on an untrusted website. I thought it was pretty funny. You can see the list of fake pages in the source (which has the sketchiest URL eve…

I find it endearing that someone is keeping up the resistance against JavaScript. Used things like noscript myself since 2008 or so. Eventually gave up since nearly no website would work that way and served you captcha loops instead.

You gave up because the anti JavaScript position is completely insane and unreasonable?

The amount of work you have to put in to support a complete absence of JavaScript is more than 2x the original time spent on getting the site to work and it will lead to a heavily degraded user experience that nobody wants in the first place.

The amount of features locked behind JavaScript keep increasing. There are so many essential features that require JavaScript it is completely unreasonable to argue against them.

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by 0rzech »

p2detar wrote: post #146
microtonal wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'd have to migrate your repository and community away from Codeberg. Why take that risk? It's just not a worry I feel that developers need. I feel like we are already there. I am not vibecoding a lot, but I certainly use LLM-assisted coding now for most of my work. Once you go beyond vibe coding, an LLM feels a lot like a compiler from your well-specified ideas to code. So, to some extend, these restrictions feel…

> It's clear that this excludes vibe coding. But what about LLM-assisted coding, where the developer writes very clear instructions of what to do and carefully reviews every line? My impression is that they don‘t care, it’s still ”slop” for them and for most of coderbergers for that matter. But I do exactly this. It‘s a code base that I have written prior manually, before LLMs, so now this helps a lot with boilerplat…

I think your impression is right, at least judging by https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware .

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by boramalper »

adamddev1 wrote: post #132

> In addition, Codeberg conflates “having a community” with “being legitimate software worth hosting” I don't think this is a fair summary. I don't see this conflation in Codeberg's blog post. The words in quotation marks don't actually exist in Codeberg's blog post. It seems that what they are saying is: In a free hosting platform where we share all the resources, it's not fair that some people using LLMs are using…

> It seems that what they are saying is: In a free hosting platform where we share all the resources, it's not fair that some people using LLMs are using up disproportionately huge hosting resources to handle the unnaturally large amounts of resources they can churn out with these tools.

Then instead of addressing the excessive resource usage problem indirectly via banning AI-assisted apps, they could've addressed it directly by imposing limits/quotas.

It's abundantly clear (and not that they are hiding it either) that their issue is with AI itself so anything else is just a secondary concern if not even a smokescreen.

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> I'm a solo dev, and I couldn't find the judgement against solo developers or any slight against people who don't have a team.

Quoting their blogpost [0]:

> ## The development team of none

> Using LLMs to work with your code gives you a kick of adrenaline. You can develop at a rapid pace, build things as if you had a large team. Only that you have none. In fact, you are (often) alone, working with a statistical machine that turns energy into code.

I couldn't care less about what they think about solo developers, but it's just one bad excuse after another and that's what people are criticising. Open Source is one person. [1]

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[0] https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-...

[1] https://opensourcesecurity.io/2025/08-oss-one-person/

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by SiempreViernes »

eviks wrote: post #160
adamddev1 wrote: post #132

> In addition, Codeberg conflates “having a community” with “being legitimate software worth hosting” I don't think this is a fair summary. I don't see this conflation in Codeberg's blog post. The words in quotation marks don't actually exist in Codeberg's blog post. It seems that what they are saying is: In a free hosting platform where we share all the resources, it's not fair that some people using LLMs are using…

> people using LLMs are using up disproportionately huge hosting resources So block huge resource use? What if people use LLMs with disproportionately tiny resource use?

The main problem is that so many LLM users are selfish bastards and they won't respect the spirit of such rules and will only stop when the hard disk quotas force them to.

So now your solution entails lowering the quota for everybody because allowing in LLyou must assume eve

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by selfhoster1312 »

veganmosfet wrote: post #87

Same. I moved to codeberg because of the non-commercial and "freedom" aspects. I enjoy vibe-coding tools for different applications, e.g. for prompt injection research. Now I will probably move back to Github. I accept this decision but I am quite disappointed by the ideology and black & white view. LLMs are a fascinating technology created by us humans, and they have the potential to make our life better. We shall s…

> they have the potential to make our life better

If you're a vegan as your nick suggests, i would suggest to reconsider this point. Capitalism was already bent on sending us towards a 6th mass species extinction (starting right under our noses), but so-called AI has changed the scale and speed of the curb drastically in only a few years. See for example this article for recent Google stats:

https://ketanjoshi.co/2026/07/01/googles-exponential-path-to...

Recent AI datacenter projects such as Stratos (40000 acres) are on a scale of industrial destruction my mind fails to comprehend.

I'm not 100% vegan, but i'm 100% "AI-vegan", and i definitely would recommend you considering it.

PS: All i said was just about the environmental impact of LLMs. I suspect the human impact to be just as bad (cognitive impairment, accrued exploitation, etc).

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by otabdeveloper4 »

boramalper wrote: post #183
adamddev1 wrote: post #132

> In addition, Codeberg conflates “having a community” with “being legitimate software worth hosting” I don't think this is a fair summary. I don't see this conflation in Codeberg's blog post. The words in quotation marks don't actually exist in Codeberg's blog post. It seems that what they are saying is: In a free hosting platform where we share all the resources, it's not fair that some people using LLMs are using…

> It seems that what they are saying is: In a free hosting platform where we share all the resources, it's not fair that some people using LLMs are using up disproportionately huge hosting resources to handle the unnaturally large amounts of resources they can churn out with these tools. Then instead of addressing the excessive resource usage problem indirectly via banning AI-assisted apps, they could've addressed it…

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Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by imtringued »

chlorion wrote: post #68

A little bit offtopic, but I spend 12 USD a month for a 1 high performance core, 2GB ram, 50GB NVME SSD VPS, and slap nginx and cgit config on there, and host my own git repos. I realize this doesn't work for everyone, and not everyone has the money to spare, but it's really nice to be able to host your own stuff on your own website, and not be tied down to a forge like github or codeberg. Bonus points if you have th…

How is it bonus points if you host at home? My big fear is that a fire, etc deletes my data. You're going to need that extra server whether you like it or not.

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by eviks »

SiempreViernes wrote: post #184
eviks wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> people using LLMs are using up disproportionately huge hosting resources So block huge resource use? What if people use LLMs with disproportionately tiny resource use?

The main problem is that so many LLM users are selfish bastards and they won't respect the spirit of such rules and will only stop when the hard disk quotas force them to. So now your solution entails lowering the quota for everybody because allowing in LLyou must assume eve

How does adding a few words to TOS stop "selfish bastards"?

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by adamddev1 »

eviks wrote: post #160
adamddev1 wrote: post #132

> In addition, Codeberg conflates “having a community” with “being legitimate software worth hosting” I don't think this is a fair summary. I don't see this conflation in Codeberg's blog post. The words in quotation marks don't actually exist in Codeberg's blog post. It seems that what they are saying is: In a free hosting platform where we share all the resources, it's not fair that some people using LLMs are using…

> people using LLMs are using up disproportionately huge hosting resources So block huge resource use? What if people use LLMs with disproportionately tiny resource use?

Making a principled ban against LLM would seem to allow for more freedom and flexibility with usage limits. People who are creating more by hand would still be allowed to have more breathing room. With a hard limit of resources everyone would be more restricted. That's also a solution, but it's just a totally different approach. The LLM ban could help to allow for freedom without the resources getting overwhelmed.
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