New Framework Desktop Option with AMD Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 495 and 192GB Memory

Post by nl » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 11:34 PM UTC

doom2 wrote: post #110

nl wrote: post #12

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On RAM supplies, the best estimates I've seen are https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/dram/cxmt-close-t... They are estimating a 25% shortfall in supply remaining in 2030, even with Chinese companies ramping up DDR5 supply. It's not looking great - the RAM producers need more of the same machines that other semi-conductor manufactures need and the suppliers of those seem unable to increase production.

It's good to know that despite warnings of a shortage in 2024, little was done in advance to prepare and now we're looking at years of shortfall for both commercial and consumer needs. Export controls preventing fab equipment being sold to China will likely extend it further. It will be interesting to see how much consumer electronics companies will be able to raise prices before people call it quits. Especially with…

Post by hyperman1 » Fri, Jul 24, 2026, 6:00 AM UTC

mapontosevenths wrote: post #112

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"To protect the children, ...."

The government invented intellectual property for a reason, and in this context it isn't serving it's puprose. It's not some natural law or inalienable right, it's a government monopoly that trades public rights for scientific progress.

  ... works of dissent and criticism could also circulate rapidly. As a consequence, governments established controls over printers ...

Post by woodrowbarlow » Fri, Jul 24, 2026, 4:05 PM UTC

snvzz wrote: post #77

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the thing about ECC memory is that it doesn't support reporting of ECC errors, so it ends up just hiding the fact that your RAM has started to go bad. this is good if you replace RAM every n years, but not if you intend to use the RAM until it starts degrading.

>the thing about ECC memory is that it doesn't support reporting of ECC errors Wait that. It does, and that's the point. Although the CPU and motherboard do of course also have to support it, but with AMD it is possible. I do it on a 9800x3d. One bit errors are always both detected and corrected. Multibit errors are mostly at least detected.

Post by LargoLasskhyfv » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 5:33 PM UTC

tristor wrote: post #59

artisinal wrote: post #13

I understand their reasoning but it’s still a shame Framework opted for a proprietary motherboard instead of mini-ITX with a socket CPU and GPU. I value repairability over a little bit of extra performance.

There is no socketable Unified Memory platform. The entire point of this SoC is that it has Unified Memory. The Framework Desktop has a Mini-ITX board, but you MUST use a solderable SoC with HBM stacked memory to get a Unified Memory outcome. For local AI workloads, that's the only part that matters, which is the entire point of wanting 192GB of RAM available on an APU. I like the repairability and modularity of my F…