Startup founders urge U.S. government not to shut off Chinese open weight AI

Post by JumpCrisscross » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 3:56 PM UTC

randbyte wrote: post #83

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #71

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This is a silly argument. Like yes, obviously it’s of less U.S. concern if one American is robbing another versus a foreign interest. We can deal with one whenever while the other creates constraints. The better arguments are the ones made in the article. Open weights increase competition and thus AI availability in the U.S. economy.

Blatantly lack of principles.

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 3:56 PM UTC

npodbielski wrote: post #60

So Y Combinator signed it too? But this is HN, Y combinator website. I think I am missing something because I never read any opinion like 'we should ban Chinese models'.

Post by GlickWick » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 3:57 PM UTC

mathisfun123 wrote: post #90

GlickWick wrote: post #50

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I do care. It's an unfortunate truth that we're exiting a global peace era and entering one of (hopefully just...) implied conflict. Our biggest geopolitical rival that's been threatening a hot war also distilling the things we build is not a good thing. Trump is a huge self-own by our electorate sadly, but being concerned about a conflict between China and the US is a very bi-partisan concern for good reason.

> Our biggest geopolitical rival People on here have zero consistency in their worldviews. Ask any capitalism zealot (ie hners) whether markets are zero sum and they'll wax poetical about "creating value". But then talk to them about Chinese competition and suddenly everything is a rivalrous good lolol. I hate to break it to you, your so called rival won this game decades ago when you undercut the working class to ma…

Post by henry2023 » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 3:57 PM UTC

GlickWick wrote: post #75

Tostino wrote: post #67

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Ask yourself, who seems to be the destabilizing force if you take a step back and look at the state of things objectively? There is some blame on all sides for sure, not saying it's black and white...but come on.

I think the major destabilizing force is the country that has been building the infrastructure for a hot war over Taiwan for the last decade while simultaneously blatantly funding the conquest of Ukraine. The US stupidly withdrawing from the world stage is definitely making this worse, of course, but it is not the catalyst. It's unfortunately a very likely side effect of a social media campaign by the same actor to m…

Post by trescenzi » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 3:57 PM UTC

jchw wrote: post #95

ninjahawk1 wrote: post #34

The U.S. does NOT have copyright protections on the data that AI models were and are trained on, it was mass theft. Now all of a sudden, the Chinese are stealing from the thieves and we’re supposed to care? No one cares, we just want cheaper AI models that are equally as powerful. They’re all thieves regardless.

Its even dumber when you consider AI model output was not considered copyrighted or eligible for copyright to begin with, as far as I know. How exactly would this even be "theft"?