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Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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post #48

The loss of personality is real. The most heartbreaking ones I've seen are in schools, or anywhere that children are involved. For example, at my local preschool there was a wall flyer with information about what to bring the swimming pool. It had the most crudely drawn fishes and crabs and seahorses that I had ever seen. It was clear that whoever drew that had no prior experience with anything even remotely resembli…

> The loss of personality is real.

Is this... irony?

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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post #104

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Because the AI one are soul-less, and the badly drawn ones are not, simple as that.

I'm aware of that, and it becomes extremely obvious in an inherently soulful context such as a preschool. Still, while "it's AI generated crap" and variations thereof are all perfectly valid reasons by themselves, they are way, WAY too shallow for the average guy who looks at both versions and prefers the AI one because it looks "better". I would probably sound crazy and/or pretentious trying to explain to him why I…

Bud, you went on a rant about art in a preschool. You wrote paragraphs about a list that someone who quite likely makes minimum wage put together while keeping 4-8 children alive.

You already sound pretentious - that ship sailed a long time ago. This is one of these moments in life that doesn’t matter one bit.

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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post #55
post #48

The loss of personality is real. The most heartbreaking ones I've seen are in schools, or anywhere that children are involved. For example, at my local preschool there was a wall flyer with information about what to bring the swimming pool. It had the most crudely drawn fishes and crabs and seahorses that I had ever seen. It was clear that whoever drew that had no prior experience with anything even remotely resembli…

Also why do they have sea life in it at all, surely that's not something that's meant to be in the pool.

Preschools decorate lists with little pictures on the sides. In most preschools that I’m aware of the person who makes that list makes minimum wage and has 4-8 children to keep alive while she’s making that list.

This is such a weird thing to get worked up over.

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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post #69

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How many of the people who answer polls like that also have the ability to look at a poster and instantly clock that it was AI-generated?

> have the ability to look at a poster and instantly clock that it was AI-generated? But soulless corporate bullshit was the same before "AI". It doesn't matter how it was produced, it's just that "AI" does it faster and cheaper. So it doesn't have to be machine generated, just looking like it is is enough.

This touches on the heart of it. AI generates bullshit. By definition. Bullshit is something that is produced without any care for whether it is true or authentic. The bullshitter's only concern is its value to the bullshitter. AI has no notion of truth or honesty. It's all just prompted, predictive streams of output. When we recognize it, we have the same reaction as we do to human-produced bullshit. Maybe even a little worse, because human bullshit at least may have some evidence of humanity in it. AI bullshit doesn't even have that.

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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post #280

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>if you’re careless about one thing like that you’re probably careless about other things ah the inverse of the "i'm good at coding, therefore i am good at everything." I want my restaurants to have delicious food; I don't expect them to have (or hire) graphic designers. Every dollar spent on design is a dollar that is not going to the quality of my food. The hate on AI menus is irrational, unless eating at a specifi…

No, it's entirely rational to judge a service based on external signals. If you need medical treatment, will you go to a doctor operating out of an office, or a doctor operating out of their own garage? Theoretically, either one could be good or bad at medicine, but in practice, professionalism is a useful signal. An ugly AI-generated menu shows a naive disregard for the actual experience of your customers. This atti…

>If you need medical treatment, will you go to a doctor operating out of an office, or a doctor operating out of their own garage? Theoretically, either one could be good or bad at medicine, but in practice, professionalism is a useful signal.

Is it a garage that has the same hygiene standards and medical equipment as an office? Your metaphor kinda falls apart here, because those are not orthogonal to the medical service outcomes, the way that a menu is orthogonal to the food quality.

>No, it's entirely rational to judge a service based on external signals.

This is the crux of why we disagree: you think of a restaurant as a seller of a service and you count things like "menu" as part of that service. Thats fine if you want status signaling from your restaurant. I see a restaurant as a purveyor of a good: the food that is produced, and the menu is orthogonal to that. You and I are optimizing for different things.

"Experience" versus food.

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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I suspect it is a fair representation of the food you would receive - looks kinda like real food, but actually isn't.

Here is a picture of the food you actually get along with the poster. https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/1uv0xcq/...

Waiter, I wanted AI slop for lunch! What is this??

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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post #64

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I don't think it's a corner cutting thing though. These businesses weren't paying someone to make a flier. The business owner was sweating for an hour in Microsoft Word and producing something that looked terrible. I expect they are now investing approximately the same about of time iterating in ChatGPT and producing something that genuinely looks like a huge improvement to them.

This. I said it elsewhere in this thread differently but people want to pretend the options are: 1. Paying a local designer to make a bespoke beautiful poster OR 2. Use AI It's not, the money is often just not there to pay someone. So you get whatever the intern or the owner can slap together in whatever tool they know best (which is rarely the best tool for the job). It's completely understandable that they would re…

You're ignoring the third option, which is to make a PowerPoint slide with a stock photo and print that. Or use an online template. There are a million ways to make a cheap, adequate flyer.

Look at this poster template. You could make it yourself in 10 minutes, with PowerPoint or any of a million other drag & drop poster-makers. https://s3.amazonaws.com/thumbnails.venngage.com/template/1b...

People may think, "oh, it's a bit simple. I guess they're a small business," but so what? If we rule out the option of hiring an actual designer, it's gonna be that or "ew, look at that shitty AI poster."

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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Thanks I’ll use this in my prompt to make a better advertisements

This is a genuine comment, rather than snark, though I appreciate it might initially look that way. Your comment is an example of something that seems to accrue around AI users: casual, even gleeful, spite. You don't get this with every technology; there is no significant strand of the pro-3D printing community, for example, that goes around taunting people who don't use printers themselves. It's significant, I think…

I’m replying to a user critiquing the output of AI images. His critique is useful to refine that.

Eventually there will be no way to tell between AI slop or not.

I’m not sure how your bridging this into psychoanalysis

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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> So many people are anti-AI/anti-LLM just because it is AI/LLM, not because it's objectively worse than the alternative. It's tiring. no, it's because the SNR of AI slop is worse than human creations. hamburger: $4.99 S̵u̸p̸e̷r̷s̶l̵o̷p̵ ̸S̶i̴g̸n̷a̴t̸u̷r̵e̵b̷u̷r̶g̵e̸r̶:̶ ̷$̴4̸.̴9̸9̷(̵b̴a̵s̷e̸ ̵c̴o̸n̵f̷i̶g̶u̵r̶a̵t̴i̴o̸n̴)̴ The amount of data hasn't changed - it's presentation. The noise is real. Presenting just the pr…

As someone who was using TTS to listen to this thread, I can tell you this specific post is about 8 minutes of life I will never get back. I'll email you the bill

okay, I'm sorry, and I'll be more aware of the fact from now on that TTS software used by not negligible number of users[1] might not be well equipped to handle "zalgo decoration" of text.

1: this is not even the second time I've seen someone here mention TTS or legal/literal blindness, so I suppose this actually isn't negligible, not sarcastically

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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post #144

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I meant to ask what the point of the question is basically. What would change, what would it matter for, if the answer was yes or no? Besides it being so general a question to really be useless as anything but an insinuation IMO, which is why I'm trying to tease that insinuation out. E.g. are people who use Apple left-handed? Are they gay? The answer is "yes, some of them, of course, but also many aren't... why are y…

OK, my point here is that a YouGov poll about people's attitude to AI may not tell us anything actionable about how people feel about AI posters - it depends on how good they are at detecting them.

So how would either answer inform any "action"?
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