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Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Post by Brian_K_White »

kccqzy wrote: post #250
Brian_K_White wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not at all the same thing. Your half-baked works can't appear to be anything else than what they actually are. You are in no danger of wasting anyone's time. For one thing, you probably never tried to mislead anyone. Did you put 8 minutes of effort into something and then come here and try to say "Hey world, here is a thing you should all care about and invest in. I mean, I didn't, but you should."? But even if you d…

I respectfully disagree. Single-person projects that are not commercially motivated always have the risk of abandonment, regardless of how polished they seem. Depending on the problem itself, I could very well get bored after 8 minutes of effort, or 8 months of work. Some of my personal projects had a lot of polish because I really cared; I abandoned them because I stopped caring. (Also, adding polish was a great pro…

You say you disagree, and then did not say anything that contradicts.

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Post by Terr_ »

Terr_ wrote: post #261
themgt wrote: post #60

That screenshot is some Lynchian horror. "#engineering. New direction, team – we're moving the prototype to Flutter" and then the humans and agent bots engage in flirty emoji-filled chats with cutesy names "I nailed the physics, UI shell @Honeybot?" I'm trying to imagine a world in which this makes sense as a way to organize software development work, but coming up short. It's on a blockchain or something though, so…

I have a premonition of future programming despair, and I wonder if it'll be like what Ian McKellen felt: A veteran of Shakespearean plays, doing all those [correction, not LoTR] The Hobbit green-screen shots interacting with no real person... __________ > McKellen said: "I felt pretty miserable … and thought perhaps, has the time come for me to stop acting altogether if I can't cope with these difficulties?" [...] >…

P.S.: I want to make it clear that this isn't just about dealing with other humans. The dread I contemplate should affect even introverted shut-ins.

I want to reduce accidental complexity, discover and understand real problems, solve them well, and leave the world somehow better for it. Not just some infinitely process ping-pong of a hallucinated digital dollhouse fifteen levels removed from objective reality.

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Post by drcxd »

themgt wrote: post #60

That screenshot is some Lynchian horror. "#engineering. New direction, team – we're moving the prototype to Flutter" and then the humans and agent bots engage in flirty emoji-filled chats with cutesy names "I nailed the physics, UI shell @Honeybot?" I'm trying to imagine a world in which this makes sense as a way to organize software development work, but coming up short. It's on a blockchain or something though, so…

Nobody notices that all the messages are labeled "5:42 pm"? From the proposition of the idea to the the review of the PR. This of course is impossible. I mean, even AI bots can understand and implement the features that fast, it is impossible for your human colleagues to notice your message and respond in the same minute. So, this image is also generated by AI?

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Post by fragmede »

ses1984 wrote: post #335
fragmede wrote: post #325

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Compare that to actors acting in The Volume though, instead of the greenscreen room.

Being marginally better than hell is still hell.

"marginally better"? What are you on about? The Volume is the opposite end of having to act in a greenscreen room!

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Post by ofermend »

teach wrote: post #75
_verandaguy wrote: post #66

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I think this is missing my implied point. Is this desire for AI integration actually coming from most people? Or is it a handful of decision makers who aren't thinking about the technology critically for one reason or another (either due to lack of information/understanding, or a financial stake)? AI is still seen very negatively in opinion polls across multiple countries, and anecdotally, tools which were often obno…

Just my two-cents as a very much boots-on-the-ground infrastructure engineer. We use LLMs heavily on my team -- to write code and review PRs. Our harnesses and guardrails are very very good so we get extremely high-quality output out of most models. But getting the humans and agents to talk together is really fragmented right now. It's annoying that the agent with the context in my locally-installed Cursor can't real…

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Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Post by andunie »

sulam wrote: post #79

I feel like this might be solving a real problem (agents having identity, access controls, etc that are provisioned like you would a regular user) — with this Nostr layer that doesn’t really provide any specific value that I can see. So actions are signed, great — this is like telling me I’m going to be using blockchain to store my files because I need crypto on top of my crypto. We see where that ended up. Is Nostr…

In my understanding there is not much here in the Nostr part that is different than a simple server.

If that's the case, why not?

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Post by andunie »

designerarvid wrote: post #105
baron3dl wrote: post #90

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nostr solves for who owns the shared service. nobody. run your own, use an open relay, or pay for one from folks you trust.

What problem is that a solution to? Is there a problem with someone owning it, in that case: what?

I don't think that's what Nostr solves. It's more like an interoperability layer.

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Post by andunie »

vaylian wrote: post #284
kinakomochidayo wrote: post #276

Jack still trying to make Nostr relevant in 2026

I also wonder how Nostr is useful here. The central idea of Nostr is that it's a lot harder to deplatform people, because a user can publish to several independent relays. Buzz is self-hostable, which removes the risk of deplatforming.

Why not use Nostr? Why come up with something else entirely that would be just a worse version of Nostr at best?

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Post by andunie »

tqi wrote: post #247

Forgive my ignorance, but what is the advantage of decentralization and cryptographically signed events in the context of a work chat/ coordination tool? Could a company not accomplish the same goal self hosting something like zulip?

Of course it could, but why do it on Zulip if Nostr exists? Now you depend on a Zulip server and all its complicated APIs that some other company controls.

If you use Nostr groups it's pretty much set in stone and you can just augment it, while at the same time using other tools that already exist for Nostr if you need.

And the agents identity part is just easier with Nostr, no need to create fake emails for the agents, create a separate bot admin dashboard and so on.

Not to mention that once you have a global identity layer it becomes easier to get people from outside the company to join temporarily (just a use case that came to my mind).

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