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EU fines Google €890M for competition breaches over search and apps

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Re: EU fines Google €890M for competition breaches over search and apps

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Could a mega-project like Linux have originated in the US instead of a Finnish bedroom? I have my doubts tbh, it takes an absolute madman to start such an obviously doomed project without any business potential ;)

Someone accusing the US of having no madmen was not on my Bingo card for 2026.

Not of the Finnish kind ;)

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Please refrain from these kind of lazy comments, especially when they're trivially proven wrong.

How are they false? Will the EC fund the road in front of my house from the money it gets from Google? Doubt it.

And the AC is real, during the heatwave a few weeks back, the EC turned it off for the lower floors and kept it on the higher floor where the commissioners work. It was an article linked here on HN too.

Re: EU fines Google €890M for competition breaches over search and apps

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> The EU has been fining Google for years to no avail. Me after a quick research: 2017: €2.42 billion fine for favoring its own comparison shopping service. Results: huge changes to Google's shopping service. 2018: €4 billion fine over Android-related practices. Results: Google Play separately from Google Search and Chrome, and manufacturers gained more flexibility over preinstalled apps.

2026: Google again found breaking the law.

yeah, 8 years later? If someone was born on the last one they're now in 4th grade and halfway to being able to drive. Are these really correlated events?

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google: 1 - restore interop with noscript/basic HTML browsers, stop favoring your 'whatwg cartel' web engine. 2 - gmail: restore interop with self-hosted SMTP servers without DNS (filtering on the IPv[46] literal from email address, this is stronger than SPF). And there is probably more to add.

sylware:

3 - stop writing comments only in english, stop favoring your 'anglosphere' linguistic bubble

Re: EU fines Google €890M for competition breaches over search and apps

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That's one read. For me it feels like practically (ASML, ARM, SAP not withstanding) their only "contribution" to tech is fines and exporting regulation. Sometimes this works out well (usb-c on iPhone), but most of the time it feels like if they want software, hardware, or the web to operate the way they want, perhaps they should try to actually produce some of it instead of being wholly reliant on others while also t…

Is ASML really that insignificant?

Yes, it's only one company out of the whole market. If ASML makes EU count as a good tech market then everywhere is a good tech market because it has at least one important tech company.

Re: EU fines Google €890M for competition breaches over search and apps

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The EU as a whole is walking a tightrope. Its largest economies still depend heavily on the US market. If the current US regime perceives that US companies are being targeted by EU "taxes", regardless of whether those laws are legitimate, there is a real danger of US retaliation.

Key sectors could take the hit, including automotive manufacturing, industrial equipment, chemicals, electronics, fashion, textiles, and luxury food and wine.

Given that these nations are already managing high debt loads while funding generous social welfare programs and expanding their defense budgets, trade sanctions could cause serious damage...

So yeah...EU is performing a delicate balancing act here.

Re: EU fines Google €890M for competition breaches over search and apps

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I'm not familiar with the Act. Can you explain how it would kill theses startups?

So basically you need 3 persons writing compliance documentation and taking care of cybersecurity. Basically another 200000€ personal cost year in low cost area. 250000€ or more in bigger cities. You have a microprocessor in your product and it’s done deal. No big deal for corporations though. Buddy’s workplace hired new compliance department for this topic with 30 persons. That’s competition european way.

You know that when a regulation mandates a role like this, it isn't the person's entire job, right? When GDPR says you need a data protection officer, it doesn't mean you need to hire someone to be your data protection officer. In a very small startup, it could mean the CEO is also the data protection officer.

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Please refrain from these kind of lazy comments, especially when they're trivially proven wrong.

How are they false? Will the EC fund the road in front of my house from the money it gets from Google? Doubt it. And the AC is real, during the heatwave a few weeks back, the EC turned it off for the lower floors and kept it on the higher floor where the commissioners work. It was an article linked here on HN too.

"EU invests €2.8 billion in 94 transport projects": https://transport.ec.europa.eu/news-events/news/eu-invests-e...

And heat rises. :D

Re: EU fines Google €890M for competition breaches over search and apps

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Google knowingly and _intentionally_ breached the law. A fundamental rule for capitalism to work well long term is that oligopoly and similar should not exist and must be rained in or outright split up if they exist. If that rule isn't followed capitalism turns from a tool which can support democracy to one which will sooner or later tear it apart. It's basically the economic version of the number one rule of democra…

You are describing free markets, I think, not capitalism. Capitalism is when rich people control everything, and we've achieved that.
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