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Mistral and ElevenLabs seem to be doing pretty well. Also, here in the U.S., we’ve managed to screw up so badly on data privacy and basic rights that the EU has been systematically replacing their entire tech stack with sovereign components.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Trump has tariffed Canada 50% allegedly because of wildfires. He acts randomly, your actions don't matter either way.
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So go ahead, make the stuff you buy from us 10x more expensive with you (not us) paying the difference to your government, then be surprised by how many of your factories can't run because they can't afford stuff they need that only we make.
Or, shock, substitute us with China.
But either way, you're hitting yourself and calling the pain a sign of victory.
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#126For Google this is just like parking tickets to UPS. A cost of doing business in town.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Trump has tariffed Canada 50% allegedly because of wildfires. He acts randomly, your actions don't matter either way.
The Supreme Court has already said that blanket tariffs aren't allowed, so it's all bluster, as per usual.
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I'd rather have that than insecure hardware. It seems like it forces security to be a first class priority instead of an afterthought.
The thing is not that the product will be somehow secure. It will have properly filled compliance papers. That’s the same story with functional safety. For example car electronic components break all the time, but they have well done paperwork.
I don't believe that is true. Cars do break but they have to meet safety standards. That doesn't make them perfect but it's much better than not having them. You can't make perfect safety standards in an ever changing world but you can define minimum standards.
I understand that documentation is a pain in the butt, but it's necessary to have some oversight. It's part of the enforcement. Everyone has to do it so we know the documentation should exist. That means we can fine companies that don't do it. If you mad the documentation and lied on it and it comes out you will probably fined even more. It's a deterrent and a way to enforce the rules.
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Interesting that US Americans think letting their companies do whatever they want everywhere (as they currently do) is the better "strategy".
it sometimes feels (some part of) US citizens are so used to companies systematically abusing them that they think it's normal and some other part seem to have "I have suffered so you must suffer too" mentality and in generally there seem to be an increasing lack of basic human empathy ... which is very worrisome
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#130PDFs of decisions in case somebody wants to learn more: Google Search decision: https://ec.europa.eu/competition/digital_markets_act/cases/2... Android decision: https://ec.europa.eu/competition/digital_markets_act/cases/2...
Skimmed (without AI). Look like feature request lists.
If this were granted, the expectation is that we would act surprised when it is fast-followed by requirements to use EU-controlled systems that can monitor this content.