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Google’s ATLAS is a look at how people are using AI

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Re: Google’s ATLAS is a look at how people are using AI

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Post by IAmGraydon »

uncivilized wrote: post #83
IAmGraydon wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A guy I work at had a check engine light on his Range Rover and a code that indicated something about a bad air/fuel mixture. He consulted ChatGPT and over the next 3 months, proceeded to spend over $15,000 trying to fix the car, as GPT convinced him over and over that he was getting close by eliminating logical possibilities. It even convinced him that a completely normal noise the engine was making was a vacuum lea…

AI psychosis is real. Dang

Yeah it's definitely some kind of delusion/gullibility exploit (probably mixed with having too much money).

The guy isn't dumb, but he is obsessed with solving every problem with AI.

Re: Google’s ATLAS is a look at how people are using AI

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Post by Xalutiono »

goldlinen wrote: post #69

Google/Noam Shazeer coped Ragdoll Studio to a T then act like they’re the innovators in the space lol Notice that nobody who actually innovated on the technology ever speaks on it. It’s always these thieves from academia and Google who act like they’re the inventors. Trying to explain to us - the people they have been ripping off for years - how “AI works” Go home Google

I'm lost. If you referene Noam Shazeer in context of Character.ai vs. Ragdoll Studio, Noam Shazeer and all other co-authors have done the work for Attention is all you need while working for/at Google.

They are for sure one of the current Frontier AI labs.

And before their competitors and china started to be that fast, they were regularly publishing a lot of research in this area too.

Were is your hate coming from?

Re: Google’s ATLAS is a look at how people are using AI

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Post by watwut »

tokioyoyo wrote: post #58
Xalutiono wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You always have to make your own conclusions of course but it doesn't mean that it is useless or just wrong. What value does Google has to cherry-pick the occupation metrics?

I did say explicitly that I think, Google did not cherry pick any data. My main question is “are they trying to build a narrative, because of the growing anti-AI tendency of the general population?”. It feels like every big co is giving up on big questions (e.g. what happens when AI replaces more and more jobs? what happens to education system?) because searching for an answer to those questions was upsetting a lot o…

> It feels like every big co is giving up on big questions (e.g. what happens when AI replaces more and more jobs? what happens to education system?) because searching for an answer to those questions was upsetting a lot of people.

They were not searching for the answers. They were trying to get more investment money on the promises to investors about education and jobs displacement. Those are two different things.

Re: Google’s ATLAS is a look at how people are using AI

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Post by isoprophlex »

jorisw wrote: post #80
1970-01-01 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crypto failed and pivoted. One still cannot pay bills, taxes, buy medicine, transportation, etc. directly with crypto. It is fair to assume the same story will happen to AI.

Pivoted where?

Buying drugs, using prediction markets, sending Palestinians money without The Man finding out.

Re: Google’s ATLAS is a look at how people are using AI

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Post by carlosjobim »

ofjcihen wrote: post #93
carlosjobim wrote: post #91

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That's not how AI or any kind of assistance is to be used. It's there to double-check and alert you to any possible mistakes you've made. You still have to use your own judgement. Have you never asked a person to take a look at some of your work? Did that mean that you have to follow and obey all of their advice?

Unfortunately this is grounded in a perfect world. People are prone to believing things that “sound” believable and AI is very good at producing just that.

I've never worked with professionals at such a low level of intelligence, and I don't think a person will even be able to get their license as an electrician if they are that unfamiliar with their own work. The world doesn't have to be perfect for people to be better than making the wrong decision every time possible.

Re: Google’s ATLAS is a look at how people are using AI

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Post by creaturemachine »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #101
uncivilized wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI psychosis is real. Dang

Yeah it's definitely some kind of delusion/gullibility exploit (probably mixed with having too much money). The guy isn't dumb, but he is obsessed with solving every problem with AI.

This person seems to be intentionally making themselves dumb by choosing not to think.

Re: Google’s ATLAS is a look at how people are using AI

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Post by ofjcihen »

ACCount37 wrote: post #94
ofjcihen wrote: post #12

Look, say what you will about Ed but when you compare his analysis against numbers and data like what we see from Google here you can’t help but see a difference https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-openai-bubble/

Look, I will say what I want: I'd trust Sam Altman to provide accurate, unbiased information about the present and the future of AI tech before I would trust Ed Zitron to do the same. And no, I wouldn't actually trust Sam "King of the Cannibals" Altman. But I would still expect him to start with far, far more accurate data, and distort it a lot less to suit his narrative than Zitron would. That's how low the bar is.…

That’s fair, but let me ask, how do you answer the numbers that Ed provides?

Sure, Ed’s making some kind of money off of subscriptions. Yeah, he’s a personality. But to ignore the deep comparisons, numbers and data that he gathers and provides to back up his analysis feels like sticking your head in the sand.

There are other banks and financial entities that are echoing his concerns as well.

Re: Google’s ATLAS is a look at how people are using AI

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Post by FpUser »

iugtmkbdfil834 wrote: post #20
tomelders wrote: post #3

In other words - "We don't like the reporting around how bad the economics of AI are, so we're cherry picking our own data, presenting it out of context, and asking you to look at it through rose tinted spectacles."

To an extent, but their main points match my own perspective: -AI use at work is broad but shallow: -At work, most AI use is focused on collaboration and assistance with tasks, and so far task automation is uncommon: Both of the above happen for a reason and if you work at any bigger corp ( esp publicly owned ), it is easy to understand why. edit: What I did find more amusing though was the coded cry for help ' To ge…

>"we as a society must work together" - this is really rich. do they say the same about sharing the "benefits"

Re: Google’s ATLAS is a look at how people are using AI

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Post by malfist »

Xalutiono wrote: post #81
malfist wrote: post #70

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> My company is a two digit billion dollar revenue company in the top 100. The company ranked 100th in the top 100 companies by revenue is Eli Lilly and they make 45 billion in revenue. I don't believe you.

My company i work for is real, normal big global company. Not sure if its really top 100 or top 150, I checked google and the lists again i can find it in one i can't find it in the top 100 in the other. Shouldn't matter though the 2 digit billion dollar revenue is true and the amount spend on tokens is true too. Everyone has access to claude, we get reminded regulalry to invest time into using AI.

Wait, is it your startup or "company I work for", because you've said both.

If you're going to lie, at least keep your story straight.

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