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Google’s ATLAS is a look at how people are using AI

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Re: Google’s ATLAS is a look at how people are using AI

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Post by cube00 »

For example, automotive technicians and industrial mechanics use AI to interpret complex test results, debug electrical wiring, and inspect machinery for wear.

No chance I'd trust Gemini to correctly tell me which wire was the high voltage one.

You're absolutely right! I apologize for providing a factually incorrect explanation. You asked a question, and I gave you incorrect information that put you in danger. That failure is entirely on my side as an AI system, not on you for following what you were told.

Re: Google’s ATLAS is a look at how people are using AI

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Post by tokioyoyo »

Xalutiono wrote: post #14
tomelders wrote: post #3

In other words - "We don't like the reporting around how bad the economics of AI are, so we're cherry picking our own data, presenting it out of context, and asking you to look at it through rose tinted spectacles."

My startup is using AI every day. My company (not my startup, my normal day to day work) spends millions on ai token every month. I use AI every day for different things. AI/GenAI disrupted already a lot of peoples jobs in real life. And Google states very early "However within jobs, people are using AI selectively: in a typical job AI is used for only ~21% of tasks." Did you read the article? Can you point out speci…

I don’t agree with the OP, and don’t think data is cherry-picked. But everyone is so deeply invested in this, that no article from any company can be taken as is.

Reading the post, I had to keep thinking “why are they only talk about how people use it at work, and nothing about possible economic outcomes?”. Or “titled Understanding the AI Economy, but it avoids all the big questions”. Or “is it written for the investors who think Google has over-invested in capex?”. And I might be overthinking about all this! But when you have billions of billions dollars invested, it’s hard to take any word as is.

Re: Google’s ATLAS is a look at how people are using AI

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Post by techpression »

Xalutiono wrote: post #14
tomelders wrote: post #3

In other words - "We don't like the reporting around how bad the economics of AI are, so we're cherry picking our own data, presenting it out of context, and asking you to look at it through rose tinted spectacles."

My startup is using AI every day. My company (not my startup, my normal day to day work) spends millions on ai token every month. I use AI every day for different things. AI/GenAI disrupted already a lot of peoples jobs in real life. And Google states very early "However within jobs, people are using AI selectively: in a typical job AI is used for only ~21% of tasks." Did you read the article? Can you point out speci…

Where’s the data for one, do they include the force fed Gemini in search? They are also pushing it harder than Microsoft was pushing copilot in every single of their products, sometimes multiple competing implementations (hello GCP dashboards).

It simply comes off as a marketing advert for a company who’s sunk billions upon billions into something they’ve yet to be able to monetize (see latest report). Stock holders are getting annoyed, like in other companies, about the lack of the promised returns, this is firefighting.

Nobody is really debating AI has a use case, but maybe, just maybe, the chase into infinite spending we’ve seen the last years wasn’t that well thought out.

Re: Google’s ATLAS is a look at how people are using AI

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Post by starvar2 »

rusk wrote: post #18

How’s this for a working theory. Economic actors that were established doing the “easy stuff” that got displaced first got a head start on everyone else and started low balling on the harder stuff and that’s why we’re seeing impacts in the parts of the economy that aren’t being directly hit by AI. It could explain why people who know stuff are finding themselves squeezed for cost in every direction even though their…

And where will the skilled workers go?

Re: Google’s ATLAS is a look at how people are using AI

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Post by dosisking »

tdu01 wrote: post #17

A very positive spin. I fear that AI will be a tool for the rich and a toy for the richer. It will sadly divide the people Geographically (rich countries affording data centres and nationalised models) and poorer countries missing out. It will divide socio-economically, the rich affording tokens becomes the land/knowledge owners/hackers and the poor becomes the labourers.

I think that AI will be a tool for Governments and the Surveillance State, and will be used to implement Communism 2.0. People in countries who shun AI will enjoy more freedom.

Re: Google’s ATLAS is a look at how people are using AI

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Post by dominotw »

meerita wrote: post #28
tomelders wrote: post #3

In other words - "We don't like the reporting around how bad the economics of AI are, so we're cherry picking our own data, presenting it out of context, and asking you to look at it through rose tinted spectacles."

I quite like that. Companies like Google, Microsoft, and Apple are simply not in a position to compete. They are always late to the party, and it is shameful. It shows that their managers are not capable of leading innovation. These companies need to go back to having real engineers drive innovation.

"google is playing a different game" is the most ridiculous cope these ppl have come up with to justify their BS leadership positions.

Demis is busy create another PR documentary lionizing himself so he can capture the google crown. Always says whole bunch of nothing to a fawning interviewers who is projecting brilliance and profundity on his every word.

Re: Google’s ATLAS is a look at how people are using AI

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Post by bdcravens »

meerita wrote: post #28
tomelders wrote: post #3

In other words - "We don't like the reporting around how bad the economics of AI are, so we're cherry picking our own data, presenting it out of context, and asking you to look at it through rose tinted spectacles."

I quite like that. Companies like Google, Microsoft, and Apple are simply not in a position to compete. They are always late to the party, and it is shameful. It shows that their managers are not capable of leading innovation. These companies need to go back to having real engineers drive innovation.

They're keeping a foot in the game with their own offerings, but I believe they're biding their time to see who to buy.

Re: Google’s ATLAS is a look at how people are using AI

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Post by Xalutiono »

tokioyoyo wrote: post #32
Xalutiono wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My startup is using AI every day. My company (not my startup, my normal day to day work) spends millions on ai token every month. I use AI every day for different things. AI/GenAI disrupted already a lot of peoples jobs in real life. And Google states very early "However within jobs, people are using AI selectively: in a typical job AI is used for only ~21% of tasks." Did you read the article? Can you point out speci…

I don’t agree with the OP, and don’t think data is cherry-picked. But everyone is so deeply invested in this, that no article from any company can be taken as is. Reading the post, I had to keep thinking “why are they only talk about how people use it at work, and nothing about possible economic outcomes?”. Or “titled Understanding the AI Economy, but it avoids all the big questions”. Or “is it written for the invest…

You always have to make your own conclusions of course but it doesn't mean that it is useless or just wrong.

What value does Google has to cherry-pick the occupation metrics?

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