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Amazing looking machine! $380 million a pop. Must surely be one of the most sophisticated machines humanity has ever built? A great achievement of European science and technology (ducks).
Depends on definition of machine. Do ISS, LHC or ITER count?
Amazing looking machine! $380 million a pop. Must surely be one of the most sophisticated machines humanity has ever built? A great achievement of European science and technology (ducks).
It's a fantastic machine but the bulk of the achievement is clearly a joint European-American effort.
Amazing looking machine! $380 million a pop. Must surely be one of the most sophisticated machines humanity has ever built? A great achievement of European science and technology (ducks).
> A great achievement of European science and technology (ducks). It's a fantastic machine but the bulk of the achievement is clearly a joint European-American effort.
The companies job is to hire well and create strong teams that work together.
Amazing looking machine! $380 million a pop. Must surely be one of the most sophisticated machines humanity has ever built? A great achievement of European science and technology (ducks).
> A great achievement of European science and technology (ducks). It's a fantastic machine but the bulk of the achievement is clearly a joint European-American effort.
Weirdly enough it never seems to work that way in discourse.
Im rooting for Intel. I hate the current paradigm where all the best chips are made in one factory in Asia.
they might have floundered in the past.
panther lakes I hear are pretty competitive with some of the apple silicone.
Crescent island is air cooled and likely fast enough for a group of users running something like GLM 5.2 or Kimi K3.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> A great achievement of European science and technology (ducks). It's a fantastic machine but the bulk of the achievement is clearly a joint European-American effort.
Then Apple M series is also a joint European-American effort, no? Since ARM is European? Weirdly enough it never seems to work that way in discourse.
Amazing looking machine! $380 million a pop. Must surely be one of the most sophisticated machines humanity has ever built? A great achievement of European science and technology (ducks).
> A great achievement of European science and technology (ducks). It's a fantastic machine but the bulk of the achievement is clearly a joint European-American effort.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Until they are built, it's all talk. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/21/foxconn-mostly-abandons-10-b...
They are built, at least one in Phoenix: > As of 2025, the first fab has been completed and is producing four-nanometer (nm) chips.
Amazing looking machine! $380 million a pop. Must surely be one of the most sophisticated machines humanity has ever built? A great achievement of European science and technology (ducks).
It's an amazing piece of technology but this is... wildly wrong. ASML is a multi-national company that licenses IP largely from USA and Japan, but also Taiwan and Germany. The actual EUV light source is developed and produced in California by Cymer, which ASML acquired in 2013. But ASML was only permitted to acquire the company under a strict technology sharing and export control agreement with the US government. Additionally, a huge portion of the photolithography research is directly developed (and owned) by US companies and research organizations such as IBM, Albany NanoTech, and SEMATECH.
There is a reason why ASML's next-generation research photolithography machine is currently being installed and developed in upstate New York, and not somewhere in the Netherlands. The same reason that Cymer is still in San Diego instead of being relocated to Europe. Because it's American technology.
But Europe certainly plays a huge role in it.
https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-hochul-announces-n...
https://research.ibm.com/blog/euv-center-albany-nstc
https://www.eetimes.com/asml-sematech-team-on-manufacturing-...
https://www.eetimes.com/asml-to-build-400-million-us-researc...