Intel Starts Shipping High-NA EUV Silicon
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Intel Starts Shipping High-NA EUV Silicon
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#2Im rooting for Intel. I hate the current paradigm where all the best chips are made in one factory in Asia.
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#3Im rooting for Intel. I hate the current paradigm where all the best chips are made in one factory in Asia.
IMO it's competition that makes better products in the end. If either party becomes a full monopolist the progress will stall (as already happened with Intel I guess)
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#4Im rooting for Intel. I hate the current paradigm where all the best chips are made in one factory in Asia.
IMO it's competition that makes better products in the end. If either party becomes a full monopolist the progress will stall (as already happened with Intel I guess)
> as already happened with Intel I guess
In which sense? Intel is neither a full monopolist (AMD, ARM) nor has progress stalled (we're still getting a regular cycle of new generation CPUs which improve on the previous).
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#5Im rooting for Intel. I hate the current paradigm where all the best chips are made in one factory in Asia.
Tsmc are opening 10 factories in USA at cost of $265bn
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/news-tsmc-us-investment...
Intel staying strong is still vital for competitiveness though
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#6Im rooting for Intel. I hate the current paradigm where all the best chips are made in one factory in Asia.
Tsmc are opening 10 factories in USA at cost of $265bn https://www.techrepublic.com/article/news-tsmc-us-investment... Intel staying strong is still vital for competitiveness though
Until they are built, it's all talk.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/21/foxconn-mostly-abandons-10-b...
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
IMO it's competition that makes better products in the end. If either party becomes a full monopolist the progress will stall (as already happened with Intel I guess)
> as already happened with Intel I guess In which sense? Intel is neither a full monopolist (AMD, ARM) nor has progress stalled (we're still getting a regular cycle of new generation CPUs which improve on the previous).
Intel didn't do much to improve their CPUs while AMD was out of the competition with the Bulldozer disaster.
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#8Im rooting for Intel. I hate the current paradigm where all the best chips are made in one factory in Asia.
Tsmc are opening 10 factories in USA at cost of $265bn https://www.techrepublic.com/article/news-tsmc-us-investment... Intel staying strong is still vital for competitiveness though
TSMC also AFAIK is forbidden from setting up bleeding-edge fabs outside of Taiwan?
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#9Amazing looking machine! $380 million a pop. Must surely be one of the most sophisticated machines humanity has ever built? A great achievement of European science and technology (ducks).
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tsmc are opening 10 factories in USA at cost of $265bn https://www.techrepublic.com/article/news-tsmc-us-investment... Intel staying strong is still vital for competitiveness though
TSMC also AFAIK is forbidden from setting up bleeding-edge fabs outside of Taiwan?
Four more 2nm (or below) fabs in Arizona. That's bleeding-edge or very close to it.