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LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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I haven't seen any open WiFi networks around me in years. I don't think it's a thing anymore; it's definitely not something a TV company can rely on.

They're not unheard of in cities. Hotels and shopping malls have them. Some residential ISPs will also broadcast a public access point using a slice of each customer's bandwidth allocation...

They all have captive portal for regulatory reasons though.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Fine with Linux though :) LG's behavior isn't fine, but their monitors don't install crapware on Linux.

yet? I guess with more and more consumer devices running Linux based OSes (SteamOS, Android, Bazzite, Silverblue, ..) that becomes more and more interesting. And unfortunately the "I'm safe on my non-windows-system" argument doesn't count for long, as the 99% muggle crowd justifies a shift to a world where our non-certified (=> 'insecure') systems are not supported by big companies anymore, as it's currently happenin…

The LG scandal specifically relies on the fact windows will auto install OEM crapware as soon as you plug it in. No other OS does that.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Fine with Linux though :) LG's behavior isn't fine, but their monitors don't install crapware on Linux.

yet? I guess with more and more consumer devices running Linux based OSes (SteamOS, Android, Bazzite, Silverblue, ..) that becomes more and more interesting. And unfortunately the "I'm safe on my non-windows-system" argument doesn't count for long, as the 99% muggle crowd justifies a shift to a world where our non-certified (=> 'insecure') systems are not supported by big companies anymore, as it's currently happenin…

"Fortunately", agent Poettering is on the case, implementing remote attestation for Linux so we can all be secure. Barf.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Unfortunately they make arguably the best OLEDs and webOS is pretty decent to use (especially compared to the terrible OS that Samsung and Sony run). I think the best thing people can do is update their firmware then disconnect it from the internet. Using an AppleTV or similar provides a better experience than any TVs built in apps anyway.

Have to agree, WebOS is much better than Android TV OS, with ads on the dashboard.

As long as you keep it off the internet. Otherwise it’s absolute loaded with adverts everywhere.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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42% of the apps on LG's platform have these quasi-malware SDKs in them? Seems kinda bad, whether it's due to negligence or just pure incompetence? You'd think there might be legal consequences for a corporation that lets their app store turn into a malware delivery system?

It's not "quasi-malware," it is malware.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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On the other hand if you want to resell 2% of your bandwidth the ISP shouldn't have any say in that.

Oh yes they can. If I'm a consumer, I pay for my connection that is sold to me and held in my name. I have no right to "resell" or "sublet" part of that. It is usually spelled out in the Terms of Service or Acceptable Use Policy. At the very least, consumer connections explicitly disallow "Commercial Use". That means that you can't use them to run a business. You can't use them to turn a profit. You can't use them to…

> At the very least, consumer connections explicitly disallow "Commercial Use".

And that's really bad! Far more than reselling, you should very much be able to run a website from home!

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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I'm very worried with all this bullshit around TVs. I've been running the same Samsung UE40C6530 since 2010. It's 16 f'ng years and the thing works flawlessly like the first day. No other electronic device in my life worked so well, during so long. But I'm about to move to a new home, and it feels like it's about time to get something more modern, at least a 4k TV. But I'm honestly totally lost at what to buy. I do n…

If you hook an Apple TV (or similar) up to any 4k TV, and turn CEC on (to let the Apple TV control it), and never set it up otherwise, it becomes a dumb monitor.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Oh yes they can. If I'm a consumer, I pay for my connection that is sold to me and held in my name. I have no right to "resell" or "sublet" part of that. It is usually spelled out in the Terms of Service or Acceptable Use Policy. At the very least, consumer connections explicitly disallow "Commercial Use". That means that you can't use them to run a business. You can't use them to turn a profit. You can't use them to…

> At the very least, consumer connections explicitly disallow "Commercial Use". And that's really bad! Far more than reselling, you should very much be able to run a website from home!

> And that's really bad!

No, it’s fair, and probably federally regulated.

You wanna run a business? Then get a business license, pay your business taxes, and sign up for a business Internet connection. That’s what they’re made for. Then run your servers to your heart’s content.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Fine with Linux though :) LG's behavior isn't fine, but their monitors don't install crapware on Linux.

Another win for the Linux security model (software installed and updated manually from vetted repos only).

Wait, you're saying a monitor can just advertise a URL over the video connection for its driver and then Windows will blindly install it, without user confirmation? I thought that LG had submitted these "drivers" (adware) to Microsoft and they approved it.
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