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Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Guy...

Japan should be the last country with a complaint. Read up on unit 731, at least, if you are unaware of the rape of Nanking or it does not convince you.

By that logic, does the USA deserve to be nuked for what they did to native Americans, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq and others?

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Are browser UIs themselves vectors for serious exploits? Orion uses WebKit and I assume they try to track as close to the release branch as possible. So if you trust WebKit, you can trust Orion. Personally I'm more of a Brave guy though, despite having been a Kagi user since 2024 :). What I'd really wish for is an EU browser that 'just works'. Vivaldi is nice but it often has papercuts because it has a small team beh…

> Orion uses WebKit and _I assume_ they try to track as close to the release branch as possible. So if you trust WebKit, you can trust Orion. The problem is you're stuck at assuming, but can't verify.

I mean, if you're really worried just test for support of certain features or absence of bugs that are only in the newest WebKit.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Tried Orion again two weeks ago. It's almost there for me, but the lack of history sync between devices and its battery consumption are dealbreakers for me. I love it otherwise!!!

Orion syncs history, natively though iCloud sync. Battery consumption should be on par or better than Safari (because Orion has native ad-clocking). If this isn't the case, it is unusual and worth digging deeper into.

Hey, Vlad! History did not sync between Orion on my MacBook and Orion on my iPhone. Bookmarks synced, however. I was running the latest version on all devices. Perhaps it's PEBKAC; I'll give it another go, as using Orion was an excellent experience otherwise.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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I use Safari all the time as well, but it doesn't behave very well with Reddit (keeps closing and reopening tabs due to "too much memory" problems. Other than that, it works for 99.9% of everything else.

Usually when sites get reloaded after sitting for a while due to “too much memory” it means the site has a memory leak (or several) that it’s owner has chosen to not address. Annoying regardless, but arguably Safari is doing the right thing here.

Yeah, I'm sure you're right. Still irritating. I tend to use Firefox for Reddit now.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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I wish there was a way to use American products without a cent going to fund American wars, police militarization or global spying.

Putting what russia does in same sentence as what america does, shows that you are either intentionally trolling or severely handicaped.

Yugoslavia.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Guy...

Japan should be the last country with a complaint. Read up on unit 731, at least, if you are unaware of the rape of Nanking or it does not convince you.

Unit 731's work was taken over by the US and perps were let off. By the US.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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> Built-in ad-blocking Definitely enjoying this trend. I think Brave was the first to do it, and now Kagi is doing it too in their own browser. The web without adblocking is so unusable it might as well be considered broken. Ad blockers are the new popup blockers: they should be built into the browsers themselves as first class features. Only conflicts of interest prevented that. Couldn't trust a company funded by Go…

Not only unusable, it's an outright security risk. Even the purportedly less scammy ad networks like Google sell ads to scammers and malware developers.

I used to read the games site Rock Paper Shotgun. At some point they decided they were going to block everyone who blocked ads. There were ways around it but the writing had gone downhill so I chose to stop reading it entirely. A few months later I saw they had issued an apology for serving malware through their ads.

I will never, ever, under any circumstances stop using an adblocker.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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I tried using Orion mobile for months but I just kept running into so many UI bugs that I had to switch away from it :(. I love Kagi, but Orion just feels unpolished right now

I have quite the opposite view here. I have switched from Firefox to Orion on my iPhone a year ago (potentially more?) and had a great experience. Sure they are sometimes some buggy UI controls (like the focus not working), but for the most part, the experience has been smooth. Did you try to report the bugs when you had some? Maybe this could help everyone else using the browser.

> Did you try to report the bugs when you had some? Maybe this could help everyone else using the browser.

I rarely bother submitting bugs on closed source software. Submitting bug reports takes a lot of time (to do well) and I feel that it often leads to nothing.

In my case, all the bugs I ran into were things that developers should also run into through normal use of the app (freezes, weird search bar bugs, scrolling stuck, etc)

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Framing Russia’s unprovoked invasion of their neighbor as “politics” actually makes me less trusting of Kagi than before I read your link. It’s really not a good look. Maybe english is not his first language, but at least in America we use the word “politics” to describe things like party association, arguing over wedge issues, treating elections as a “team sport”, rhetoric, etc. We don’t use it to describe an attemp…

Except it is literally is just rational geopolitics. The story of the Russian invasion of Ukraine is not just a single whimsical choice by a mad dictator. There has been a decades long encirclement campaign by NATO which ultimately pushed too far. That's not to say that states joining NATO did not do so willingly and of their own accord, but that it played into a larger struggle for influence that disadvantaged Russi…

Spoken like a true russian troll

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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I am not supporting kagi since i found out they fund putin's war via yandex that is fully owned ditrctly by state

Fair choice but do you also boycott US companies assisting in the Gaza genocide and the unprovoked attack on Iran?

This is whataboutism in praxis
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