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Orion Browser by Kagi

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Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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> The only browser supporting Safari, Chrome, and Firefox extensions

Honestly it's nuts you've cracked a way to support all three of Safari, Chrome and Firefox extensions. In my experience while developing browser extensions, providing support for all three is somewhat of a headache.

Care to share more insights on how you did it, or even launching/supporting a browser extension framework to ship browser extensions?

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Tried Orion again two weeks ago. It's almost there for me, but the lack of history sync between devices and its battery consumption are dealbreakers for me. I love it otherwise!!!

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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I have permanently switched to https://github.com/imputnet/helium for a while now and have been quite happy with it. That said, I still think the browser market is garbage for consumers.

What's the unique value proposition here? I checked it out and seems like yet another Chromium fork with some privacy added on top.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Except it is literally is just rational geopolitics. The story of the Russian invasion of Ukraine is not just a single whimsical choice by a mad dictator. There has been a decades long encirclement campaign by NATO which ultimately pushed too far. That's not to say that states joining NATO did not do so willingly and of their own accord, but that it played into a larger struggle for influence that disadvantaged Russi…

This is so hilariously stupid, the invasion of Ukraine is so completely impossible to defend that all of these talking points smell like a third grader wrote them. In a rush, at the beginning of class. “The moral dimension is illusory“ Yeah maybe if you glue your eyelids shut and pretend millions of dead people are actually totally fine, and definitely WORTH expending for… wait what is it that Russia has gained from…

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Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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I'm a heavy user of Google Drive, Docs, Sheets etc. for work. Does the suite work better with Orion now? It's the one thing that forced me off of Orion and back to Firefox. Or perhaps I need to really invest in finding a functional alternative to the Google suite. And I'm reading that Orion supports containers now, which is a feature I also love.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Are browser UIs themselves vectors for serious exploits? Orion uses WebKit and I assume they try to track as close to the release branch as possible. So if you trust WebKit, you can trust Orion. Personally I'm more of a Brave guy though, despite having been a Kagi user since 2024 :). What I'd really wish for is an EU browser that 'just works'. Vivaldi is nice but it often has papercuts because it has a small team beh…

> What I'd really wish for is an EU browser that 'just works'. Have you tried Zen Browser? It's entirely open source but the core team and sponsor are European, and it's actively positioning itself as the European alternative. I've been giving it a go lately. So far, so good, and I like most of their UI/UX choices.

Not OP, but your comment had me looking into it: the fact that it's Firefox-based is reason enough to give it some consideration: the Chrome monopoly we are currently under is not compatible with a healthy and neutral web.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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The best feature is being able to use Firefox extensions and thus uBlock Origin and sponsorblock on iOS. It's a little buggy but worth it for me.

Whatever you think uBlock Origin is doing; it‘s most likely just the built-in Orion ad-blocking. While uBlock Origin can be installed in Orion on iOS just fine, it remains non-functional. As discussed before, I find this to be false advertising by Kagi: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48476448 Next best thing for me is using Safari with uBlock Origin Lite, which actually works.

I grew tired of posting the same thing every time the extension support in Orion comes up, so thank you for doing it for me

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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> Built-in ad-blocking Definitely enjoying this trend. I think Brave was the first to do it, and now Kagi is doing it too in their own browser. The web without adblocking is so unusable it might as well be considered broken. Ad blockers are the new popup blockers: they should be built into the browsers themselves as first class features. Only conflicts of interest prevented that. Couldn't trust a company funded by Go…

As an ad-blocker user for years, I agree. On the flip side, how do blogs, news, and every day ad-serving websites survive without them? If it dies, it dies? Maybe this is not a discussion for here right now. But it's definitely something I've thought of. Not everyone want to pay for news.

I would be fine with a mode where the ads were corralled at the bottom of the page, but not loaded, with a disclosure triangle which would then allow me the option of viewing them if the content was credible enough that it seemed to me that the site content creators could be trusted to have signed up for ads which might have merit.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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We should revive the micro payments feature that where built into very early browsers. It didn’t catch on back then. But time are changing.

Paywalling with extremely easy, one-click payment of very small amount might work. Paywalling does still incentivize things like misleading, sensationalized click-bait titles, but that's pretty much the norm everywhere. Alternatively, if there was a subscription that covered a massive amount of blogs/news bundled into one low-cost subscription, that might also work. What I heavily doubt is if donation-based micropaym…

Well, Ted Nelson wanted that w/ Xanadu and Autodesk spent a fair bit of money on that....
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