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Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Post by lenerdenator »

orochimaaru wrote: post #37
6stringmerc wrote: post #15

As a former proposal specialist (B2B, B2G, non DoD) I looked into the Genesis Mission procurement site and process. Unless someone can correct me, the total amount of grant monies is $280,000,000 or so. It became obvious that it’s not worth my time to engage in the “mission” as they call it, even if I could benefit some worthwhile causes. That’s a pittance and pretty insulting to the purported benefit of funding scie…

This is a really weird comparison. The Chan Zuckerberg foundation is nowhere involved with any war. All they’re doing is making money available for research. In which universe is $280m not enough?

When the people running it have a net worth of over $150 billion.

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Post by andyjohnson0 »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #39
righthand wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

React is more of a plague than a wonderful downstream effect or mixed bag. It’s essentially cemented Js as the way to build a website even if you don’t need the complexity. It is the leader in brain dead Js evangelism.

Credit where credit is due, though: ReactJS became #1 on its merits. ...yes, Redux (not React) deserves to be #1, but Redux isn't a complete, all-under-one-roof framework the way React is; but regardless of that: The Redux/React approach is just fundamentally a better design than what we had before: stateful-controls/widgets and two-way data-binding. If you'd like to relive how UI devs suffered throughout the 1990s,…

> nothing but mutable objects of indeterminable state getting caught in infinite-loops or unbound recursion due to INotifyPropertyChanged

Rant on brother/sister. I'm a year into building a large WPF (because reasons) app for my employer and some days its very difficult.

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Post by [deleted] »

philipwhiuk wrote: post #16
6stringmerc wrote: post #15

As a former proposal specialist (B2B, B2G, non DoD) I looked into the Genesis Mission procurement site and process. Unless someone can correct me, the total amount of grant monies is $280,000,000 or so. It became obvious that it’s not worth my time to engage in the “mission” as they call it, even if I could benefit some worthwhile causes. That’s a pittance and pretty insulting to the purported benefit of funding scie…

It's a weird world where $280M is not considered a lot of money.

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Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Post by Zaheer »

kubrickslair wrote: post #19
Zaheer wrote: post #3

This fits with my impression of the 'personality' of various models: Meta: Perceptive (strong vision) Gemini: Fastest Claude: Smartest OpenAI: Prettiest

Why do you think OpenAI is the prettiest? Claude often makes better looking interfaces and designs. And I think OpenAI has solved more open math/ stats/ CS problems.

Their text output often includes more emojis and seems formatted better. Also their image models subjectively looks better than the rest.

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Post by pavlov »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #39
righthand wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

React is more of a plague than a wonderful downstream effect or mixed bag. It’s essentially cemented Js as the way to build a website even if you don’t need the complexity. It is the leader in brain dead Js evangelism.

Credit where credit is due, though: ReactJS became #1 on its merits. ...yes, Redux (not React) deserves to be #1, but Redux isn't a complete, all-under-one-roof framework the way React is; but regardless of that: The Redux/React approach is just fundamentally a better design than what we had before: stateful-controls/widgets and two-way data-binding. If you'd like to relive how UI devs suffered throughout the 1990s,…

I made several large Cocoa (macOS AppKit, Obj-C) apps in 2004-2018 using the classic Smalltalk-inspired MVC patterns and this was never a problem. Sometimes writing the controller boilerplate was boring, but at least there were no observer loops, it was simple to debug where things happened, and undo/redo were reliable to implement through the framework.

Maybe Microsoft just never was very good at these 1990s style GUIs?

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Post by andsoitis »

noodlescb wrote: post #31
airstrafer wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The models might be good but the product design, user story, and marketing is so terrible that it’s difficult to see it as more than an also-ran

Even that is kind tbh. The company is so poorly run and the leader so controversial that it makes it irresponsible to build anything serious that relies on their products. Other than the rocket part of the business, everything else under the SpaceX umbrella is a nonstarter.

> The company is so poorly run

In what specific ways is the company very poorly run, say compared to a comparable outfit?

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Post by sailingparrot »

ipsum2 wrote: post #45
sailingparrot wrote: post #25

> Meta's open-source approach makes this possible I'm sorry, was this article drafted in 2024 and never updated?

SAM3.1 was released and open sourced March 2026. But what's the point of correcting you? People will continue to propagate their own lies.

Sure, I just find using OSS grand standing, and trying to educate the audience about the benefits of OSS a bit distasteful after Meta pulled away from OSS for their main flagship models.

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Post by locknitpicker »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #29
momojo wrote: post #20

I'm no fan of Facebook or its social effects but I can't deny the wonderful downstream effect of their open source. Popular microscopy models like Cellpose[0] have leaned heavily on the cornucopia of open and SOTA power. I have no doubt thousands of biologists have benefitted from the capabilities these models bring. I think it was unthinkable just 5 years ago that a single biologist with just a laptop could do mass-…

> but I can't deny the wonderful downstream effect of their open source. ReactJS has been a very mixed-bag...

> ReactJS has been a very mixed-bag...

This is a very confused statement to be made, specially after the last decade where React established itself as the de facto way of writing any and every SPA.

Is it yet another example of "there are only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses."

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