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Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Post by joenot443 »

rsstack wrote: post #28

> Explain Like I'm 5 > Buzz is an open-source, self-hosted workspace that combines team chat, AI agents and Git hosting using signed Nostr events, so teams can keep control of their data. Very different expectations of 5-year-olds.

It’s kinda interesting seeing what, IIRC, was originally a subreddit name which spawned from an AskReddit thread, is now a common marketing phrase in the tech world.

Similar to the sub itself, it’s now just shorthand for “describe using the first principles the expected audience should understand.”

I imagine a lot of people in the industry also fondly remember the 2010s reddit experience.

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Post by alex1138 »

edoceo wrote: post #27
lvl155 wrote: post #17

As much as I detest Zuck, he was right about Twitter guys.

Any context for the ignorant?

I know that he referred to Twitter as "it's as if they drove a clown car into a gold mine and fell in"

Yes Zuck because a product that didn't constantly fuck around with people's privacy settings and had real real-world uses... sure, money is all that matters. You would know. Your vision of the web isn't liberation, it's "dumb fucks", that's all you think people are

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Post by AlienRobot »

Gecko4072 wrote: post #3

Now when I see new software projects I just think of how much of them are made with agents and the unreliability/easy abandonment that comes with it. Ten years ago this product would have been of a known quality. Not saying anything about buzz specifically.

The ease of abandonment is real.

1. Generate function with AI.

2. Generate tests with AI.

3. Modify function with AI.

4. Tests no longer pass.

5. Delete all tests.

6. Generate tests with AI.

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Post by rsstack »

joenot443 wrote: post #81
rsstack wrote: post #28

> Explain Like I'm 5 > Buzz is an open-source, self-hosted workspace that combines team chat, AI agents and Git hosting using signed Nostr events, so teams can keep control of their data. Very different expectations of 5-year-olds.

It’s kinda interesting seeing what, IIRC, was originally a subreddit name which spawned from an AskReddit thread, is now a common marketing phrase in the tech world. Similar to the sub itself, it’s now just shorthand for “describe using the first principles the expected audience should understand.” I imagine a lot of people in the industry also fondly remember the 2010s reddit experience.

In this article, it's just an AI-generated TL;DR, tagline, sub-title box that was badly prompt-engineered and the website owners didn't care about its quality. I am pretty sure the entire website is an AI generated news aggregator.

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Post by sroerick »

sulam wrote: post #79

I feel like this might be solving a real problem (agents having identity, access controls, etc that are provisioned like you would a regular user) — with this Nostr layer that doesn’t really provide any specific value that I can see. So actions are signed, great — this is like telling me I’m going to be using blockchain to store my files because I need crypto on top of my crypto. We see where that ended up. Is Nostr…

I had the same thought - but maybe it's good? I was thinking that if you have a decentralized store than you can connect to it regardless of dev environment. I've used XMPP for orchestration but I can see ergonomic advantages to this.

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Post by sroerick »

jillesvangurp wrote: post #38

Bots in team chat is not a bad idea. I've been experimenting with that for a few months. We started with Slack. This kind of works but dialing in the gazillion of permissions needed to end up with something that works is a bit painful. And you have to do this over and over again for each new bot. So, we started experimenting with self hosted alternatives. First we tried Matrix. It's nice but a bit too strict on end t…

How about XMPP?

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Post by horsawlarway »

Gecko4072 wrote: post #3

Now when I see new software projects I just think of how much of them are made with agents and the unreliability/easy abandonment that comes with it. Ten years ago this product would have been of a known quality. Not saying anything about buzz specifically.

I find this thought process somewhat faulty given that the vast majority of software ends up in that spot regardless.

Hard to take this as that big a deal when Google literally launched a product along similar social themes named "Google Buzz" which lasted all of like 16 months in 2010, well before agents and llms.

Either the project will find a fit, or it won't - and code quality doesn't have all that much to do with it existing in 2 years (some - but not as much as engineers want to believe).

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Post by TZubiri »

muglug wrote: post #4

[I work for Slack, opinions very much my own] Having agents see everything you and your colleagues see is cool. The challenge comes when you want to make certain things private to certain people. In that world you don’t want multiplayer agents leaking data, so you end up having to write and maintain complex rulesets about what specific resources agents have access to. Single-player agents, on the other hand, are much…

The product seems to use the same 'scoping' mechanism that humans would use, so you can give agents access to whatever 'channels' you want.

The issue seems to be that they 'invented' an auth and permission protocol instead of delegating to something existing, it would be as if they thought their idea of permissions were novel.

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Post by baron3dl »

sulam wrote: post #79

I feel like this might be solving a real problem (agents having identity, access controls, etc that are provisioned like you would a regular user) — with this Nostr layer that doesn’t really provide any specific value that I can see. So actions are signed, great — this is like telling me I’m going to be using blockchain to store my files because I need crypto on top of my crypto. We see where that ended up. Is Nostr…

nostr solves for who owns the shared service. nobody. run your own, use an open relay, or pay for one from folks you trust.
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