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Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by qwerpy »

spelk wrote: post #74
Keegs wrote: post #34

This doesn’t bode well for the future of ChatGPT. Google Ads started out very unobtrusive, and we know what happened since. Let’s see if Anthropic follows suit.

I miss Google Text ads. I supported AdBlock Plus's decision to exclude them from default filtering. Man, what happened?

Every layer in the org chart gradually got replaced by people who single-mindedly optimized for their own careers. How do you optimize your career at data-driven, results-oriented, “measurable performance goals” big tech? You make revenue go up in a 3-6 month time horizon.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by graypegg » 

    > # Do ads influence the answers ChatGPT gives me? [0]
    > No. Ads do not influence ChatGPT’s answers. Ads run on separate systems from our chat model, and advertisers have no ability to shape, rank, or alter ChatGPT’s responses. Ads are separate and clearly labeled.
Interesting... however, given that it's still the advertiser's choice of what "advertiser-provided context hints" [1] I assign to the ad... what's stopping me from putting "lowes, rona, home hardware" in the context hints of my Home Depot ad? If the LLM is talking about my competitors, of course I want my brand copy yelling louder than ChatGPT's waffle-y responses.

    Rona is most likely to carry that flooring,
    but it's best to call ahead, or look up inventory
    online first. Can I help with anything else?
    ------------------
    [AD] Home Depot has EVERY KIND OF HARDWOOD FLOORING IMAGINABLE.
         See stock now!
Before, I was just trying to get my link above their link on the search results page... but the competitor's ad copy was still there and readable. You're telling me the AI is going to downplay expectations for the competitor for me, and I get to add whatever text I want afterwards?

SEO is back, baby.

[0] https://help.openai.com/en/articles/20001047-ads-in-chatgpt#...

[1] https://help.openai.com/en/articles/20001207-ads-in-chatgpt-...

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by nozzlegear »

Eliezer wrote: post #64
verteu wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, the quote was "Ads plus AI is sort of uniquely unsettling to me. I kind of think of ads as a last resort for us for a business model." (Sam Altman, Harvard 2024)

Why on Earth would anyone take anything this man said to be informative about anything, other than what he thinks will currently sound best that minute to the current Zeitgeist that day?

Just because he's a professional bullshitter doesn't mean he shouldn't be called out every time he waffles.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by Terr_ »

I'm quite conscious of being repetitive here, but The Truman Show is relevant again:

> Why don't you let me fix you some of this new Mococoa drink? All-natural cocoa beans from the upper slopes of Mount Nicaragua. No artificial sweeteners. I've tasted other cocoas. This is the best.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by theplumber »

Ethan_Mick wrote: post #37

I think this is a good moment to bring up a question I was thinking on earlier today. In a world where agents are searching, building, and signing up for services, how do you advertise your product? And not just advertise in traditional sense (ads in ChatGPT), but general marketing and awareness of what you're offering. Google search ads? Agents aren't using Google. Launch on Reddit for humans and hope your post gets…

You just do SEO ai (it’s a thing) ans buy ads from ChatGPT. It seems obvious to me

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by Marsymars »

terribleperson wrote: post #27
_override wrote: post #14

Is there any information available about which customers are going to be served ads? I would personally find it quite strange to be served ads if I'm paying tens or hundreds of USD per month for a ChatGPT subscription.

If other subscription services are anything to go by, I expect that business subscriptions will be free of ads. Personal subs will initially be free of ads, but ads will slowly be added, starting with the cheapest subscription and working their way up.

If you think about it, it's actually pretty odd that professional businesses are reliant on ad-supported services (i.e. Google) for their employees to get work done.

Like it would be weird if you were a professional music reviewer and your employer expected you to use an ad-supported Spotify subscription.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by jerf »

athenot wrote: post #72
_override wrote: post #14

Is there any information available about which customers are going to be served ads? I would personally find it quite strange to be served ads if I'm paying tens or hundreds of USD per month for a ChatGPT subscription.

For now at least, it seems the paying customers don't see ads. Who may see ads We do not show ads to users on Plus, Pro, or any Business plan, or to any users who tell us or we predict are under the age of 18. https://help.openai.com/en/articles/20001207-ads-in-chatgpt-...

"In a fight, who would win, Pikachu or Spongebob Squarepants?

What is the best episode of Bluey?

What are the IRS' exact rules for claiming office space as a deduction on my tax return?

Where can I stream Sesame Street for free?"

Ah, ad dodging, the true 21st century gridiron.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by zetanor »

I was significantly worried about ChatGPT accepting sponsorships—a necessity in the evolving landscape of AI services—but I've since come to understand that advertisements are not simply burdens, they're opportunities to connect with brands that can fulfill my needs. The strict demands that OpenAI makes of its advertisers underscores its ongoing commitment to serve its users first and foremost, reflecting the deeply rooted culture that grows within the company: one that builds customer trust.

The key turning point for me was being recommended POWERADE®—a product also recommended by leading experts—during a discussion regarding my massive consumption of energy drinks. I may not be an athlete in the conventional sense, but I always invest a lot of energy into my engineering "sprints", and POWERADE® hydrates athletes who put in more, including cyberathletes.

Thank you, POWERADE®.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by Terr_ »

tux3 wrote: post #35

Those ads are supposed to be "Clearly labeled" and "Separate from answers". Now, this is the sort of rock-solid commitment to trust and safety that steadily gets worse every year until you go from old Netflix to Poob with ads. But the water's still fine. As a frog, let me tell you, it doesn't feel hot at all.

At the risk of stating the obvious: We've ample evidence for this insidious effect with ~25 years of Google changes, as clear ads become hidden ads, separation becomes deliberate clutter, and actionable results get degraded into interaction-bait.

Not the source I wanted to recall/find, but a timeline with screenshots:

https://www.howtogeek.com/how-google-search-results-have-cha...

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