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Re: Kimi Work

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Post by sourcecodeplz »

postalcoder wrote: post #25

kimi has been particularly shameless in copying codex 1:1, wow. Like, I get it, before condex there was conductor and a ton of other guis but this looks like they just copied the code. Also, their privacy disclosure is incredibly misleading: > How does Kimi Work protect my privacy when accessing local files? You have absolute control over your files. The built-in Ask before acting safeguard means Kimi will prompt you…

> kimi has been particularly shameless in copying codex 1:1, wow.

so ????

LLMs by definition are copyright infringers. so this is nothing compared to that.

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by dwedge »

windsignaling wrote: post #223
kvisner wrote: post #24

I wish they had some kind of US hosted option, NDR policy, or something like that. I love the price and power, but I have concerns around data sovereignty and leaking IP to an overseas company.

I never really understood this sentiment. Some foreign company / government cannot do anything to me. My own government, on the other hand...

Often it's the law. I don't trust the EU more than I trust the US or China, but I also cannot transfer data outside of the EU

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by ZackMomily »

The potential for local agents to handle the heavy lifting is incredible. When I'm deep in complex technical work, I rely on Taskai on my Android to capture all those small, distracting tasks that pop up so I can stay in the zone.

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by kakacik »

matesz wrote: post #240
dpacmittal wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good. Anthropic, OpenAI, Google built their models by shameless training on works of millions of people without any compensation.

That is an awful take. Although Silicon Valley's tech bros are shameless in their own way, there's no justification for symmetrizing the two.

No its pretty realistic. Nobody is losing their sleep when ultra-wealthy thief gets robbed for their stolen possessions or money made out of those, do they.

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by cyanydeez »

valleyer wrote: post #47
cyanydeez wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if your model ever touches bash, it has unfettered acess to all your files.

Not if the harness applies an OS-level sandbox to the process, as Codex does. https://learn.chatgpt.com/docs/sandboxing?surface=cli

on linux, thats this: https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-8288-1

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by jkwang »

The local-first approach for agent workflows is compelling — keeping context on-device addresses real privacy concerns in enterprise settings. Curious how it handles long-running task state persistence.

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by disiplus »

postalcoder wrote: post #25

kimi has been particularly shameless in copying codex 1:1, wow. Like, I get it, before condex there was conductor and a ton of other guis but this looks like they just copied the code. Also, their privacy disclosure is incredibly misleading: > How does Kimi Work protect my privacy when accessing local files? You have absolute control over your files. The built-in Ask before acting safeguard means Kimi will prompt you…

They all are pretty similar. And if it was copying anything, I would say more inspiration from claude desktop then codex. The Zcode is more like codex.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JFfgfMO0nO7HR0WHwEqEEjXIIQj...

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by wepple »

windsignaling wrote: post #223
kvisner wrote: post #24

I wish they had some kind of US hosted option, NDR policy, or something like that. I love the price and power, but I have concerns around data sovereignty and leaking IP to an overseas company.

I never really understood this sentiment. Some foreign company / government cannot do anything to me. My own government, on the other hand...

A foreign company can’t steal your IP to build out competing products?

Or use source code to find novel vulnerabilities and deeply compromise your company?

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by jmacd »

Everyone calling this a copy is willfully overlooking that the major labs are nakedly copying each other AND smaller vendors constantly. Codex and Claude Code didn't just materialize at the same time. And frankly, they both copied Aider in the beginning.

Then there is reasoning itself.

Agent SDKs.

On and on.

This isn't a game of hide and seek. It's a race. The fact that Kimi is Chinese doesn't make their stride any more a copy than 90% of what the major labs are outputting these days.

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by QuantumGood »

zkmon wrote: post #214
wxw wrote: post #80

> Kimi Work is a Local Agent designed for deep workflows. It mounts your local folders, navigates the web autonomously via WebBridge, runs Python code in the background, and executes scheduled tasks. It's clearly a dupe of Claude/Codex products (Codex especially, styling-wise), but I think Kimi's goal here is simply to appear on feature-parity with bigger labs. I doubt they'd want to invest much into designing a UI f…

I think we need to stop using the term "dupe" as if there was some originality somewhere that was not built upon or copied what already existed.

"Good artists copy, great artists steal, the best artists make lies seem true." – Steve Jobs.

Actually, Jobs self-servingly refactored then misattributed to Picasso the line,

  "Good artists copy, great artists steal."
Jobs did seem to properly remarket Picasso's intent, though, as Picasso had said:

  "When there's anything to steal, I steal."

  "What does it mean, an artist copies? It is normal. The important thing is to do it better."

  "Art is a series of masterly thefts."
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