Was Global Entry in the US a tactic to trick us into giving up our biometric data for speedy re-entry? I can say it's now barely faster than waiting behind the line for the stamper officials in their booths.
The EU is about to sell our most sensitive data to the US for visa-free travel
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Re: The EU is about to sell our most sensitive data to the US for visa-free travel
#302Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some amount of surveillance leads to a better society. See SG. Flock is needed for current USA. That's why idiots are up against it.
Flock is run by incompetants. Their systems are comically insecure and access is easily abused. And the amount of surveillance data they routinely collect is not small. There needed to be a lot more discuss of who is doing the surveillance, how, and why before this was foisted on the public.
Then that should be fixed instead of vandalizing.
And let's be honest, that's not why "some" people are against them.
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#303I fail to understand the distinction between an ESTA and a visa to be honest. You need to do the paperwork in advance, pay, provide all sort of personal information, and it can be denied, and if approved only for a limited amount of time. Given that both the EU and the UK have reciprocated, it is a fiction that there exists some visa free travel between these 3 zones. And the more hassle you create, the less tourism…
The amount of data you need to provide for ESTA and a B1/B2 US Visa is not remotely comparable - the visa process has way more steps and requirements.
Depends on the visa.
A-1 and A-2 for example require almost nothing beyond a photograph, and a letter saying you’re travelling on behalf of your government.
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#304The point missing in the article is that, in order to enter the US, one needs to give the US Govt their photo and fingerprints ("biometric data") anyway. There are two options: visa-free with the biometric data passing on the wire (no hassle), or visa (a major hassle) and biometric data passing in the airport (a minor one). As a side note, the EU also collects photo and fingerprints from visitors now. Whereas in the…
> visa (a major hassle) and biometric data passing in the airport (a minor one).
Since US-issued visas are multiple entry for 10yrs, it's relatively not a hassle at all.
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#305Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the US, we like to reduce state capacity. Helps limit the damage bad actors can do when they are in power.
This seems deeply delusional at this point.
As delusional as thinking the 2nd amendment will help "limit the damage bad actors can do when they are in power".
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#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
ESTA and visas are two different things: - with ESTA, your country of origin is "trusted" and individuals in general undergo a lower level of scrutiny at a US port of entry. - with a VISA, you country of origin is "not trusted" and individuals are granted the right to travel to the US after they undergo interviews at an US embassy and get approved. Neither is a right to enter the US. Just a right to be transported by…
And only one gives you a sticker on your passport (And funnily enough the Visa lasts for a longer time)
Depends on the country. Eg. New Zealand and Australia don't put a visa sticker in your passport.
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#307Earlier quoted context omitted.
A national ID system (standard in effectively all European countries) is table stakes for state capacity. I find the RealID opposition baffling.
In the US, we like to reduce state capacity. Helps limit the damage bad actors can do when they are in power.
Except such a federal ID already exists: the Passport Card. Make it free to obtain and mandatory to use.
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#308Earlier quoted context omitted.
How could random prints be falsely linked to me if my prints are not in a database? It can only happen if they are.
You can be falsely linked to a crime without biometric evidence and excluded on the basis of biometric evidence
That can also be trivially done without a biometrics database: just collect and compare when they become a suspect!
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#309What a stupid, hysterical claim. This "sensitive data" is just what's on your passport, fingerprints, criminal history, and terrorism flags (from European agencies), only for people crossing the border. I don't see how you could defend not sharing any of that.
...uhm You are happy to share your home address and everything else to securely identify you to a government acting increasingly erratic? Because I am not. I would be happy if terrorism-flagged people are shared across borders, but not everyone. Remember once the dataset is there, it is not ever going to go away, regardless of who is in power
Your home address is required for a US visa and for many other countries visas around the world. This is not a recent thing.
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#310Earlier quoted context omitted.
The future is bleak if you are attempting to cross borders with a forged or stolen passport. Nobody else is adversely affected by this.
There are many reasons not to want authoritarian governments tracking your every movement other than you having stolen or forged a passport.
you might not want to look into what governments do with your phones triangulation data :D