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Agent swarms and the new model economics

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Re: Agent swarms and the new model economics

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Post by ViscountPenguin »

htrp wrote: post #2

>The browser swarm from earlier this year peaked at roughly 1,000 commits per hour on Git. The new system peaks at around 1,000 commits per second. >To facilitate this rate of activity, we built a new version control system (VCS) from scratch. Throughput was not the only reason to own this layer. Every change in the system passes through the VCS, so it is where collisions first become visible, and several of the coor…

Seems very reasonable to me tbh, the VCS was built to facilitate human work structures, rebuilding it to facilitate autonomous work seems appropriate.

Re: Agent swarms and the new model economics

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Post by trevswarm »

Even at a much smaller scale of a few dozen parallel agents working I've found real benefit to a structured hierarchy of agents. Not just keeping the context clean and focused at the right level, but if you find that something has just gone off the rails, you can more easily rip out or even just fully delete a leg of work without damaging the original design. It's also nice when you find a design change is needed and you can communicate that to the top level and have it efficiently propagate down where it matters.

I like it so much I even recorded a video walking through the process!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efUmcCiRoDU (I do walk through how I do this in our app DevSwarm here)

Re: Agent swarms and the new model economics

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Post by thewhitetulip »

brap wrote: post #7
mccoyb wrote: post #5

I find these blog posts (and the originals, with Anthropic's C compiler and Cursor's browser) somewhat funny, as if they have this enormous power to build ... but they can't build something unique or new. Like the software sucks, but look how powerful the process is (the models are indeed powerful). And it's a bit of a shame: by virtue of their position (their embedding in the fabric of venture capitalism), it seems…

Because it's mostly a load of crap. Most of these reusable, automated workflows sound really cool in theory, but in practice either they require a lot of customization (not really reusable) or a lot of babysitting (not really automated). AI has improved my productivity significantly, I'm not a hater, but we also have to be honest about its (current) limitations. The whole "software factory" thing is just a pipe dream…

Yes and this can be proven because what Anthropic says and does is vastly different

They say SaaS is dead and you can vibe code any SaaS using Opus and yet despite having Mythos with them they have to use JS terminal to run Claude Code.

Why don't they just vibe code CC? Why doesn't Dario have a 100000 agent swarm to run entirety of Anthropic or at least software department?

Re: Agent swarms and the new model economics

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Post by ta93754829 »

mccoyb wrote: post #5

I find these blog posts (and the originals, with Anthropic's C compiler and Cursor's browser) somewhat funny, as if they have this enormous power to build ... but they can't build something unique or new. Like the software sucks, but look how powerful the process is (the models are indeed powerful). And it's a bit of a shame: by virtue of their position (their embedding in the fabric of venture capitalism), it seems…

it feels kind of like a concept car a large manufacturer would show off at a motor show. Everyone knows there is no intention to actually ship that thing, but they're exploring concepts and technology and trying to make inroads in what comes next.

Re: Agent swarms and the new model economics

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Post by jnwatson »

thewhitetulip wrote: post #65
brap wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it's mostly a load of crap. Most of these reusable, automated workflows sound really cool in theory, but in practice either they require a lot of customization (not really reusable) or a lot of babysitting (not really automated). AI has improved my productivity significantly, I'm not a hater, but we also have to be honest about its (current) limitations. The whole "software factory" thing is just a pipe dream…

Yes and this can be proven because what Anthropic says and does is vastly different They say SaaS is dead and you can vibe code any SaaS using Opus and yet despite having Mythos with them they have to use JS terminal to run Claude Code. Why don't they just vibe code CC? Why doesn't Dario have a 100000 agent swarm to run entirety of Anthropic or at least software department?

They've said for some time that Claude Code is 90% LLM generated code.

Re: Agent swarms and the new model economics

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Post by timacles »

w-ll wrote: post #55
whatever1 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If at the end Shakespeare-level literature is produced, does it matter whether we arrived there by random keystrokes?

Shakespeare-level literature was produced. We are the infinite monkeies, and one was shakespeare.

How much slop you figure Shakespeare produced?
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