Agent swarms and the new model economics
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Agent swarms and the new model economics
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#2>The browser swarm from earlier this year peaked at roughly 1,000 commits per hour on Git. The new system peaks at around 1,000 commits per second.
>To facilitate this rate of activity, we built a new version control system (VCS) from scratch. Throughput was not the only reason to own this layer. Every change in the system passes through the VCS, so it is where collisions first become visible, and several of the coordination mechanisms in the next section are implemented directly inside of it.
Talk about inventing the universe to make a button.
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#3> To test that progress, we returned to a task the old swarm had struggled with: building SQLite from scratch, in Rust, from nothing but its documentation.
Isn't SQLite's source code in its training data?
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#4Love to see these crazy kinds of experiments going on. Even if this doesn't 100% work or is prohibitively expensive for now, these are glimpses into the future in the same way people were talking about coding agents in 2023 when we just had tab complete.
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#5I find these blog posts (and the originals, with Anthropic's C compiler and Cursor's browser) somewhat funny, as if they have this enormous power to build ... but they can't build something unique or new. Like the software sucks, but look how powerful the process is (the models are indeed powerful).
And it's a bit of a shame: by virtue of their position (their embedding in the fabric of venture capitalism), it seems like they can only make a subset of things -- what they can make is dictated enormously by capital, as they are engines of capital.
Not sure the point I'm trying to make, I just find it amusing.
Perhaps the point is that it might be more worthwhile to give independent creators a billion dollars to play around with agent swarms if we want to keep diversity in the evolutionary algorithm that is the software industry high.
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#6I find these blog posts (and the originals, with Anthropic's C compiler and Cursor's browser) somewhat funny, as if they have this enormous power to build ... but they can't build something unique or new. Like the software sucks, but look how powerful the process is (the models are indeed powerful). And it's a bit of a shame: by virtue of their position (their embedding in the fabric of venture capitalism), it seems…
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#7I find these blog posts (and the originals, with Anthropic's C compiler and Cursor's browser) somewhat funny, as if they have this enormous power to build ... but they can't build something unique or new. Like the software sucks, but look how powerful the process is (the models are indeed powerful). And it's a bit of a shame: by virtue of their position (their embedding in the fabric of venture capitalism), it seems…
Because it's mostly a load of crap.
Most of these reusable, automated workflows sound really cool in theory, but in practice either they require a lot of customization (not really reusable) or a lot of babysitting (not really automated).
AI has improved my productivity significantly, I'm not a hater, but we also have to be honest about its (current) limitations. The whole "software factory" thing is just a pipe dream people sell to execs / investors / online courses.
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#9I find these blog posts (and the originals, with Anthropic's C compiler and Cursor's browser) somewhat funny, as if they have this enormous power to build ... but they can't build something unique or new. Like the software sucks, but look how powerful the process is (the models are indeed powerful). And it's a bit of a shame: by virtue of their position (their embedding in the fabric of venture capitalism), it seems…
Yes, that's true, but in the post, they even mention that building the spec is the scarce resource.
For that to work, the swarm has to actually follow the spec, which is what much of this post is about. We gave the swarm 835 pages of prose and it came back with a database. What was scarce in this experiment, and what we expect to be scarce in software engineering going forward, is the right description of intent.Re: Agent swarms and the new model economics
#10> To test that progress, we returned to a task the old swarm had struggled with: building SQLite from scratch, in Rust, from nothing but its documentation. Isn't SQLite's source code in its training data?
not in Rust. might be different enough ...