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The lost joy of music piracy

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Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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I'm very serious. It's not a simple matter to get any sort of exportable data from these cloud services, and they won't bother to notify you that media that was on your playlist or in your library has been removed. I gave Apple Music a try for about a year. and even that relatively small migration was hellish. I have an easy time managing a playlist through the many available audio player frontends writing to an .m3u…

no one gonna delete your playlist, stop making shit up

YouTube has deleted many videos from many of my playlists.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Music piracy is alive and well if you know where to look. Some places has been mentioned in this thread already. Of course there is no replacing the magic of early 2000-2010's p2p sites like OiNK, What and Waffles - but well curated sites still exist.

I really struggle to find new music. I feel like I've already listened way too many times to everything I have on my SD card, but I really don't know what to look for. When I was a kid I was very much into rock and everything adjacent so I do have albums of most iconic rock bands. Nowadays I'm more into electronic music. I love a good techno track and I have a folder with 2000-2010 greatest pop-techno bangers. God da…

radio.garden has been great for me.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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I wonder if the real difference is that everyone has earbuds versus playing through a speaker

We had earbuds in in early 2000s too, just not the wireless kind.

An important part of my observation is that everyone is using them, not just that they are available

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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And Sony would never remove movies from your account

so we comparing license to physical now ????

There's no physical media here anywhere (necessarily). This is comparing your computer (music on your PC that you purchase beforehand and do whatever you want with) to someone else's computer (cloud streaming that requires the platform to pay a license and get permission, that could one day be taken away without notice).

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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post #625

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so we comparing license to physical now ????

There's no physical media here anywhere (necessarily). This is comparing your computer (music on your PC that you purchase beforehand and do whatever you want with) to someone else's computer (cloud streaming that requires the platform to pay a license and get permission, that could one day be taken away without notice).

Yes because that just how license works you know

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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no one gonna delete your playlist, stop making shit up

YouTube has deleted many videos from many of my playlists.

Yes because youtube has a rule

You cant uploading porn or isis video on youtube, it would be insta deleted

or do you think no rule is a good thing ?????

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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YouTube has deleted many videos from many of my playlists.

Yes because youtube has a rule You cant uploading porn or isis video on youtube, it would be insta deleted or do you think no rule is a good thing ?????

> no one deletes things from playlists

> Actually they do delete it and that's good

Pick one

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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> I make an effort to use Spotify to find and listen to albums, but it wasn’t built for this, and invariably find 90% of my listening happening on algo-generated playlists of songs that sound exactly like a song I like. I never learn the names of the songs or the names of the bands as the songs go by, and I fall in love with none of it… It just vaguely sounds like stuff I like. It sucks. I don't think algorithms are…

Yeah, this is the part I miss too. Not really the downloading, more the weird little rituals around finding stuff and talking about it. What do you think a modern version of that would look like without just becoming another feed?

Modern version needs to be community focused, not platform focused. This could look like "old instagram" or "old reddit": people sharing findings with friends / small groups of like minded people.

We are seemingly unable to create something like that from scratch; these communities get born when good enough platform quality + hype/fashion + network effect all 'click' together once in a few decades. The problem is: every single time such community-based platform ever appeared, we've started tweaking the _platform_ and have (unintentionally?) destroyed the community in the process.

Today we are so advanced in managing technology, but so backwards in helping communities grow. People really need to stop treating communities as "user bases". Instagram or Reddit are not bringing any value on their own. Their value is driven by communities. Paradoxically, every other platform feature they introduce chips away at the community.

(Side rant: It is almost like platforms intentionally try to convert social side of user experience into something akin to 'television'. 10 years back I was mostly reading Instagram posts of my friends and looking at the photos they made, today I mostly see 'content creators' in the feed, and all the meaningful interaction with friends was reduced to seeing their 'likes' floating around the screen, plus forwarding more content to them.)

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Yes because youtube has a rule You cant uploading porn or isis video on youtube, it would be insta deleted or do you think no rule is a good thing ?????

> no one deletes things from playlists > Actually they do delete it and that's good Pick one

so your playlist is videos blacklisted from youtube ????

its not gotcha what you think it is

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