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Competitors run out of money and shut down, perhaps. Although I don't see how that happens for anyone but Google.
Do we all shift over to Chinese models.
Yes.
Codex Resets
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#192Crazy value for money now with the banked resets. At my $COMPANY, we have claude enterprise at API pricing. I've blown through $10k already this month, opting for Opus 4.8 w/ Sonnet 5 agents where possible. On my codex pro plan, I am 5.6 sol'ing my way everyday with the odd ultra mode. Point being my real API usage here must be very unsustainable!
API pricing itself might have extreme margins compared to the real cost. Anyway, in my testing the Pro 20x $200 plan gives you about $2200 API-equivalent weekly usage if you're only using GPT 5.6 Sol, so quite close to $9k-$10k/month API-equivalent, it's a bit inconsistent with cache costs. It's very interesting that for Anthropic the $100 and $200 plans only differ 2x in weekly limits, the 5 hour limit differences a…
I just upgraded from Pro to Max 5x and I’m getting about 3.5x not 5x
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
If AGI comes to exist it won't be "priced" at all, since the lab that creates it will either quickly be seized by the gov't for national security, or they will become the most powerful organization in the world and have no need to sell services to other corporations. they will become the only corporation.
Good sci fi premise, but not at all how AGI will happen. It’s not going to be a singularity at one moment of time. It’s not going to be instant runaway self-improvement, no matter what doomers and fetishists say. It’s going to be gradual. We’ll see glimmers of AGI, and the “G” part will be about gradual broadening of domains and deepening of capabilities. All of the coding harnesses are already using their own tools…
Someone could have a small private breakthrough tomorrow that gives sample learning efficiency of the brain, online learning, and consolidated memories.
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
If AGI comes to exist it won't be "priced" at all, since the lab that creates it will either quickly be seized by the gov't for national security, or they will become the most powerful organization in the world and have no need to sell services to other corporations. they will become the only corporation.
Good sci fi premise, but not at all how AGI will happen. It’s not going to be a singularity at one moment of time. It’s not going to be instant runaway self-improvement, no matter what doomers and fetishists say. It’s going to be gradual. We’ll see glimmers of AGI, and the “G” part will be about gradual broadening of domains and deepening of capabilities. All of the coding harnesses are already using their own tools…
So, extend what they said to cover a 50 year timespan? "Instantaneous" wasn't mentioned or implied.
Re: Codex Resets
#195How long is this gonna last? OpenAI obviously is doing it to gain mindshare but they're burning money before their IPO and can't sustain these resets. They've bought a lot of dev goodwill tho, which matters I guess.
Are Codex users even a drop in the bucket of overall use? I mean, it's a pretty specific way to interact with the bot. Codex usage is clearly common enough to have entered the vernacular of folks here on HN. But we aren't everyone, and it seems likely to me that there's a lot more people in the world burning tokens using ChatGPT than there are who even know what Codex is.
It is safe to assume there are more 'normal' chat sessions than 'codex' sessions, although Codex sessions likely consume 10x the tokens the average person does asking for a lasagna recipe.
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#196This is a useful site. I've been enjoying the resets, plus I had 3 resets I haven't used. Just using 5.6 Sol in Fast mode the whole time, 1B tokens per day. However, when they removed the 5h limit they also quietly lowered the 5.6 Sol context from 354k to 258k or something like that. I noticed it in Codex.
There were a few tweets about it so they weren't super quiet about it. I think you can get it back by setting `model_context_window=YOUR_VALUE` in ~/.codex/config.toml though.
It no longer works and only respects a server supplied value now
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
If AGI comes to exist it won't be "priced" at all, since the lab that creates it will either quickly be seized by the gov't for national security, or they will become the most powerful organization in the world and have no need to sell services to other corporations. they will become the only corporation.
Good sci fi premise, but not at all how AGI will happen. It’s not going to be a singularity at one moment of time. It’s not going to be instant runaway self-improvement, no matter what doomers and fetishists say. It’s going to be gradual. We’ll see glimmers of AGI, and the “G” part will be about gradual broadening of domains and deepening of capabilities. All of the coding harnesses are already using their own tools…
The problem is... the moment someone gets it and it really solves hard problems and solves scifi level shenanigans, the given country that owns it, could gain such unfathomable lead above anyone else that it will almost surely lead to an all out war. I don't even know whether it is possible to conceal that you have such capability....
Imagine all the fear- and warmongering kingmakers and powerful individuals when they realize they have no power over anything or anyone.....so game over for them. They won't like it at all, at all.
Another problem, that in order to make it understand real life, it needs robots or humans wired into it (brain interfaces) in order to test certain things in the real world. And that is another level we know almost nothing about, at least on the surface.
PS: do these self improving harnesses even work?
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They, like every startup ever, count users in a very stupid way. One person using the app on two computers and a phone? That's obviously 3 users. Growth Hackers and SEO types have done so much to make the world an insufferable place. I congradulate them on the OpenClaw psyop, that was some very inspired bullshit that did fuck all and is now irrelevant.
Such a counting method doesn’t explain that incredible growth. Do you think day by day huge portions of users are using additional devices in perpetuity?
I know it for a fact. Have you never worked at a startup before or even seen "growth hacking" at work?
Turning Then you do it again by offering ex-users like me who have already given them a grand or two a free month of plus or pro (this is the third time they have done so for me)
When you hear founders and investors talk about "the magic of storytelling" "the power of momentum", this is what that is.
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#199I stopped paying for Codex because of this shit. "Whoops we burned a week of 20x usage in minutes because we fucked up the cache again. You can keep paying money to get more resets to fix it" nah, I'll use open models. Only way I'd use codex now is if it was free, and I don't mean someone else paying for it. I would rather have them pay for DSv4P or Kimi
When did that happen with Codex? I thought that was a Claude Code thing
Check the github issues brother, search for "usage". Read through the noise. Look at the dates. Don't forget the closed ones.
It's been happening every week since 5.2 was fresh. Not everyone is effected every time. Sometimes it's regional, other times it's per platform, or per version, with a feature (new or old) either enabled or disabled, or some combination of these things. Sometimes you get resets that nobody else does, other times you don't get the ones that were announced. Sometimes you get emails telling you that boosts on limits you didn't even know you had are expiring. At points it did balance out when they really fucked up metering and were underbilling by absurd factors, but that feels more like being toyed with and experimented on than a genuine mistake.
That someone had the 'brilliant' idea to add banked resets (which do expire, so you have to use or lose them, hope you didn't have other plans) says to me that they are no longer as confident about actually being able to fix this as they once were. I'm sure some amount of it is a function of compute availability and reliability, but the rest are definitely issues with the app and it's a rake they keep stomping on.
Compared to just about any other dev centric service I have paid at least $200/mo for, this does not feel very professional to me. They got $1200 outta me and it never really improved. At points I felt like I was getting my moneys worth, and I did burn through a few hundred million tokens, but the frustration of having your projects and plans interrupted and having to wait is not awesome... and then I used Deepseek V4 Pro and felt sick to my stomach with buyers remorse as I watched what it did with just $10.
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#200I stopped paying for Codex because of this shit. "Whoops we burned a week of 20x usage in minutes because we fucked up the cache again. You can keep paying money to get more resets to fix it" nah, I'll use open models. Only way I'd use codex now is if it was free, and I don't mean someone else paying for it. I would rather have them pay for DSv4P or Kimi
I think it's perfectly normal for errors to occur given the pace of development. Retroactive refunds are certainly better, but I think OpenAI is much more customer-focused in this regard than Anthropic.
Sure, but also who asked? And that's because they have the compute to burn, which is conditional based on their need to use it to train the next one.
Anything else I've ever paid $200/mo for, advertised as being for professionals, had a markedly better customer experience. If you wanna be Patrick and tell your pet rock to take its time at that price, well then you're Patrick. Good job!
I'm having far more fun with Kimi and Deepseek, at lower prices, without these problems. And I don't have to follow a bunch of obnoxious shitposters to stay clued in on what the fuck is going on or what this week's excuse is.
They're especially cocky right now, they have to beat their chest and pretend like their only competition is Anthropic. They're in for a rough wake up call man. Playing it fast and loose with developer loyalty is a fantastic way to get burned when options like those exist. They are earnestly just as good and in some cases better, and check this out: nobody can take them away from you no matter where you live. If you want to rent 8 GPUs and run the open models yourself, you can do that! You can even be enterprising and sell your excess compute to your friends, or strangers. Best to figure this out before the regulatory capture starts