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Re: Codex Resets

#121
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> 5 days ago: 7M users > 4 days ago: 8M users > 3 days ago: 9M users That's some incredible growth.

They, like every startup ever, count users in a very stupid way.

One person using the app on two computers and a phone? That's obviously 3 users.

Growth Hackers and SEO types have done so much to make the world an insufferable place. I congradulate them on the OpenClaw psyop, that was some very inspired bullshit that did fuck all and is now irrelevant.

Re: Codex Resets

#122

I stopped paying for Codex because of this shit. "Whoops we burned a week of 20x usage in minutes because we fucked up the cache again. You can keep paying money to get more resets to fix it" nah, I'll use open models. Only way I'd use codex now is if it was free, and I don't mean someone else paying for it. I would rather have them pay for DSv4P or Kimi

When did that happen with Codex? I thought that was a Claude Code thing

Re: Codex Resets

#123

I stopped paying for Codex because of this shit. "Whoops we burned a week of 20x usage in minutes because we fucked up the cache again. You can keep paying money to get more resets to fix it" nah, I'll use open models. Only way I'd use codex now is if it was free, and I don't mean someone else paying for it. I would rather have them pay for DSv4P or Kimi

I think it's perfectly normal for errors to occur given the pace of development.

Retroactive refunds are certainly better, but I think OpenAI is much more customer-focused in this regard than Anthropic.

Re: Codex Resets

#124
post #15

Crazy value for money now with the banked resets. At my $COMPANY, we have claude enterprise at API pricing. I've blown through $10k already this month, opting for Opus 4.8 w/ Sonnet 5 agents where possible. On my codex pro plan, I am 5.6 sol'ing my way everyday with the odd ultra mode. Point being my real API usage here must be very unsustainable!

How do you spend so much? Our company also has Claude enterprise pricing. I have a monthly limit of $800, I use Opus for everything, and I'm around the limit after the month. Genuinely can't imagine spending 12 times as many tokens without intentionally trying to waste money.

Re: Codex Resets

#125

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You hit the nail on the head. It's a race to the bottom.

Everyone is raising the bottom. Kimi got 60% more expensive during the 2.x cycle despite staying the exact same size. Now K3 is almost 6x the cost of the original K2 checkpoint, and while the parameter count finally jumped, it's still an extremely sparse MoE and definitely does not cost 6x what the original K2 checkpoint did to host at scale. Race to the bottom only takes real effect when there's a cap to the capabil…

But Kimi (at least say) will release their weights. So surely, if their prices are too high, somebody else will host it cheaper?

Re: Codex Resets

#126
post #113
post #4

How long is this gonna last? OpenAI obviously is doing it to gain mindshare but they're burning money before their IPO and can't sustain these resets. They've bought a lot of dev goodwill tho, which matters I guess.

They're performing the resets when the cluster load goes down and they have sufficient capacity to handle the reset.

Capacity is one thing but inference still costs money.

Re: Codex Resets

#127
post #5

> 5 days ago: 7M users > 4 days ago: 8M users > 3 days ago: 9M users That's some incredible growth.

They, like every startup ever, count users in a very stupid way. One person using the app on two computers and a phone? That's obviously 3 users. Growth Hackers and SEO types have done so much to make the world an insufferable place. I congradulate them on the OpenClaw psyop, that was some very inspired bullshit that did fuck all and is now irrelevant.

Such a counting method doesn’t explain that incredible growth. Do you think day by day huge portions of users are using additional devices in perpetuity?

Re: Codex Resets

#128

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That’s less than the fully loaded cost of hiring another engineer. If someone is making the case that it’s helping the team get twice as much work done without hiring more people (which I’m neither agreeing with or disagreeing with) then the bean counters would actually prefer it. Hiring people is messy and expensive. Spending on API costs is a dial that you can turn down later if you need to, without laying anyone o…

Well someone would actually have to make that case. So far nobody has been able to.

Did you ever hired another dev and made the case that he really 2x yourself?

Re: Codex Resets

#129

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Can anyone explain how you “win” the market of super intelligence? Particularly with open weights models now rivaling the frontier, it seems like a race to the bottom even if the prices don’t yet reflect that.

"race to the bottom" is the negative framing of "competitive market prices". So a company or union might say "this is a race to the bottom" when someone new enters their market, but to people buying their services this might be seen as welcome competition. Do you actually see a negative impact from competition in this area? Or do you just mean competition will further reduce prices?

"race to the bottom" is also a response to a "market for lemons". It's not necessarily a good thing because while pricing drops to the floor so also does value to the customer in general. Usually it happens when price is very visible but the details of what the buyer actually receives are not.
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