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Re: Codex Resets

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Post by lwansbrough »

sebjones wrote: post #59
Lwrless wrote: post #55

Those resets and the removal of the 5-hour usage limit are quietly anchoring me to a much higher usage baseline. I've stopped rationing and just spawn a bunch of agents to work at whatever pace I want, because there always seem to be more resets on the way (at least true for the last week). And now I am actually worried about that if one day they just stop doing so, my "normal" workflow will suddenly exceed the limit…

All these resets are given because of rival competition. When they win the market, we are going to be squeezed $$$.

Can anyone explain how you “win” the market of super intelligence? Particularly with open weights models now rivaling the frontier, it seems like a race to the bottom even if the prices don’t yet reflect that.

Re: Codex Resets

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Post by reactordev »

lwansbrough wrote: post #61
sebjones wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All these resets are given because of rival competition. When they win the market, we are going to be squeezed $$$.

Can anyone explain how you “win” the market of super intelligence? Particularly with open weights models now rivaling the frontier, it seems like a race to the bottom even if the prices don’t yet reflect that.

You hit the nail on the head. It's a race to the bottom.

Re: Codex Resets

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Post by viccis »

tekacs wrote: post #42
PacificSpecific wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had this too on my personal pro plan and also when I run the usage command it says it's resetting tomorrow rather than getting cut off. I'm trying to squeeze what I can in the meantime but I feel like they said it was getting cut off multiple times and they keep extending and possibly resetting it (havent been looking close enough to know for sure)

https://x.com/claudeai/status/2078302415804379218 No, they've been clear about the fact that Fable is staying in indefinitely now. They also extended the 50% extra usage thing through to August 19.

Looks like no Fable for Pro. Will likely be cancelling my Pro account.

Re: Codex Resets

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Post by manquer »

slopinthebag wrote: post #52
Aurornis wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Point being my real API usage here must be very unsustainable! I think it’s funny that everyone anchors to the API pricing as the real cost. Most likely is that their API costs are printing profits. They can sell the subscription plans at a slight loss because it gets more people like you hooked on GPT models at home and suggesting them at work, where the real money is made. I think their subscription plans go most…

Idk, Kimi K3 is not that much cheaper than Opus and it’s probably a smaller model. We’ll know for certain when commodity providers price it, but I expect it to be the same price.

It really depends on caching[1] and active parameters, and some dark arts really only possible at Hyperscalers they also have better access to 288GB VRAM B300s[2] that really makes a difference in cache space.

K3 may be bit smaller/ similar in total parameter count than Opus, but Opus (and GPT) definitely has become a lot more efficient in the last 6 months or so, hence more or less forced upgrades. I expect the active parameter count and cache performance is quite different.

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Opus is still almost twice as expensive (if tokens were equal) at $5/$15 compared to K3 at $3/$15. Tokens are not equal though, Anthropic's tokenizer is much less dense than other frontier lab's so the actual price difference is like 3x.

Kimi uses more reasoning tokens and is generally more inefficient with its usage, that doesn't impact token cost economics for the provider though . It does for us as buyers thus the need to evaluating by Cost per task rather than unit pricing.

On pure tokens/$ - there is definitely room for a price war if operators start going by pure unit costs. Both probably want(ed) to have good enough numbers in preparing for the IPO.

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[1] the pricing kind of reflect this already - 10x diff for uncached input.

[2] Moonshot does not have access latest gen GPUs so their unit economics is likely hampered a bit for high parameter models.

Re: Codex Resets

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Post by trollbridge »

huey77 wrote: post #15

Crazy value for money now with the banked resets. At my $COMPANY, we have claude enterprise at API pricing. I've blown through $10k already this month, opting for Opus 4.8 w/ Sonnet 5 agents where possible. On my codex pro plan, I am 5.6 sol'ing my way everyday with the odd ultra mode. Point being my real API usage here must be very unsustainable!

Kicking myself that I didn't use one of my 4 resets which just expired, but then again, they reset our usage anyway. We are just blasting away with 5.6-Sol-ultra, doing a project I wouldn't have otherwise done (basically drastically editing someone's novel for them and adding illustrations).

Re: Codex Resets

#66

Post by trollbridge »

sebjones wrote: post #59
Lwrless wrote: post #55

Those resets and the removal of the 5-hour usage limit are quietly anchoring me to a much higher usage baseline. I've stopped rationing and just spawn a bunch of agents to work at whatever pace I want, because there always seem to be more resets on the way (at least true for the last week). And now I am actually worried about that if one day they just stop doing so, my "normal" workflow will suddenly exceed the limit…

All these resets are given because of rival competition. When they win the market, we are going to be squeezed $$$.

If they try to engage in monopolistic pricing, I'll simply start paying for GLM-5.2, K3, DeepSeek et al.

Re: Codex Resets

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Post by trollbridge »

perching_aix wrote: post #26
sva_ wrote: post #7

Compare to Anthropic who consistently do their resets between Thursday and Friday, somewhat alienating people who have their resets around that time.

Oh, they have free drops too? I guess dual wielding the two $20 subs is the best value option right now then.

Anthropic has been like this for a while, although in their latest announcement, the $20 tier won't have the "cheap" access to Fable, and neither will the $100 tier.

Re: Codex Resets

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Post by luciana1u »

there is now a dedicated dashboard tracking when a tech company resets its own rate limits and it is somehow more reliable than the actual product status page

Re: Codex Resets

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Post by trollbridge »

doawoo wrote: post #16
jrflo wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's mostly to spread hype for the new models. Sol can be ridiculously long running, even without /goal so it can run for 12hr+ on a problem with defined and verifiable output. So it's a good way for people to get hyped about the capabilities without worrying about usage limits.

coworker tried Sol the other day and it sat and thought for 10 minutes before maxing out our company's per-user weekly limit lol

Sol is really not optmised for corporate plans. The sane way to use it is via a personal subscription.
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