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Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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holoduke wrote: post #463
UltraSane wrote: post #434

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And chinese don't have full freedom of movement. China uses a system called called hukou which binds a persons rights and benefits to their birthplace. This has created a population of 350 million rural migrants who live in cities but still have a rural hukou and are treated like second class citizens in their own country. https://borgenproject.org/chinas-hukou-system-restricts-mobi...

China is a communists based country. Everything is organized and for everything there is a plan. Unlike America where it's free for all. We probably would die from unhappiness in China. But it works for them and they are pretty successful in it.

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Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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Post by coldtea »

leereeves wrote: post #501
amrit3128 wrote: post #494

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Millions? Please. CCP as it's now was created after reforms by Deng. Most people died due to Mao. CCP back then was only Mao loyalists. CCP endorsed Mao only to gain public legitimacy as the ruling party, since back then China was still a poor country prone to revolts and extremist ideas.

> CCP as it's now was created after reforms by Deng. Their policies changed, so they're no longer responsible for their own history?

The current generations are not responsible for historical things they didn't order or did.

As for the country as an abstract in general, sure. As much as other countries are responsible for their own history.

Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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Post by coldtea »

UltraSane wrote: post #411
faitswulff wrote: post #335

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That simplistic characterization is still essentially "China-bad." The CCP is the same government responsible for lifting historically unprecedented numbers of people out of abject poverty. Does it make up for other human rights violations? No. But "CCP bad" flattens a complex and powerful political organization into a fairy tale boogeyman.

The worst part of the CCP is it's hatred for free speech https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jul/16/hong-kong-book... Five arrested in Hong Kong bookstore raids in ‘seditious’ materials crackdown Third round of arrests linked to independent bookshops widely regarded as clampdown on dissent in territory

If that's the "worst part" about them, reacting like that to sedition plans, it sounds quite tame.

It's not like people elsewhere, cough, are not arrested for protesting against the bombing in Palestine or against ICE. Or, on the other side of the pond (and on the other side of the political spectrum), for tweeting against illegal immigration to their country. Or in Germany for merely calling the chancellor an idiot.

Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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Post by coldtea »

QuesnayJr wrote: post #491
holoduke wrote: post #462

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The CCP now has proved a 'better' system than the western 'democracy' that is in many ways at the end of its life.

Both systems are at end-of-life. If anything, China is closer to the end. The total fertility rate in China is down to 1, while the US is 1.62.

It's as if the introduction of market capitalism and consumerism into a country craters the fertility rate and dooms it!

Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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killerpopiller wrote: post #500
shunia_huang wrote: post #436

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WOW the classic yes...but..., where's these statement coming from? I'm Chinese and I don't get the point here at all, you guys seem living in vacuum with biased news, and know much much better than we people living here, that's really confusing everytime I see/read comments lie this. China now is open freely for almost everyone, come and see by yourslef, if you not living poverty. The world itslef does not work the p…

China interns a million Uigurians and other people with beliefs.

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Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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Post by coldtea »

AuthorizedCust wrote: post #445
shunia_huang wrote: post #436

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WOW the classic yes...but..., where's these statement coming from? I'm Chinese and I don't get the point here at all, you guys seem living in vacuum with biased news, and know much much better than we people living here, that's really confusing everytime I see/read comments lie this. China now is open freely for almost everyone, come and see by yourslef, if you not living poverty. The world itslef does not work the p…

Tell your neighbors, friends, and government bureaucrats about the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre. Let me know how that goes.

Probably about as well a if you told them about ICE. Or if you complained against the war at Kent state university.

Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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Post by pastel8739 »

artisinal wrote: post #489
pastel8739 wrote: post #435

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But you could imagine a country that invested, in addition to roads, cars, and oil, in public transportation, cities that you can get around on foot, and in renewable energy. Such a country might be better off that the US is now.

Not everyone wants public transport. I never use it. Don’t like being so close to other people. And it is much more expensive where I live. Four friends going for a day trip to the big city is €120+ by train and bus. Had another look. It’s €265 just for the four train tickets alone, in the lowest class. €375 if you want to travel in comfort class. Two hour journey.

You could imagine that this wasn’t the case, right? Or you could imagine that investing in it for those people who do want it might improve your own life (e.g. by reducing traffic) not to mention society as a whole?

Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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Post by tptacek »

t0mpr1c3 wrote: post #363
tptacek wrote: post #299

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You can't buy Chinese EVs in the US because China is overtly running a dumping campaign for them. It's an interesting story, read up on it!

That is (factually) a giant overstatement, and ignores domestic US politics. It's almost like you believe the US remains interested in promoting free trade. If it did, it wouldn't be levying illegal and constantly changing import tariffs, in violation of international trade agreements that it has signed up to.

I'm waiting for one of these "no you're wrong" comments to explain why it is that I'm wrong. I get that I didn't provide evidence either, but I'm relating the conventional wisdom on BYD-type cars. The C.W. is often wrong! But, like, you have to say why.

Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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Post by UltraSane »

holoduke wrote: post #463
UltraSane wrote: post #434

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And chinese don't have full freedom of movement. China uses a system called called hukou which binds a persons rights and benefits to their birthplace. This has created a population of 350 million rural migrants who live in cities but still have a rural hukou and are treated like second class citizens in their own country. https://borgenproject.org/chinas-hukou-system-restricts-mobi...

China is a communists based country. Everything is organized and for everything there is a plan. Unlike America where it's free for all. We probably would die from unhappiness in China. But it works for them and they are pretty successful in it.

China is not actually communist anymore. It is totalitarian capitalist

Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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Post by scarecrowbob »

leereeves wrote: post #501
amrit3128 wrote: post #494

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Millions? Please. CCP as it's now was created after reforms by Deng. Most people died due to Mao. CCP back then was only Mao loyalists. CCP endorsed Mao only to gain public legitimacy as the ruling party, since back then China was still a poor country prone to revolts and extremist ideas.

> CCP as it's now was created after reforms by Deng. Their policies changed, so they're no longer responsible for their own history?

I don't think most folks I know in the US are willing to touch the historical wrongs (genocide and slavery) with a 3.048M pole.
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