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Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by inigyou »

smalltorch wrote: post #127
rglullis wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a classic "Show, don't tell" example. If you want to make the point that self-hosting is trivial, then show a site that you are hosting with your setup instead of just pointing to gitlab.

Ok, well here is an example of how easy it would be to set up your own torum for instance. 3 or 4 commands and it's up. https://nonogra.ph/running-a-website-inside-a-website-07-15-... I don't feel the need or want to share my services with the world to demonstrate that.

Why did you still not post an onion link? It's as if you feel people don't like onion links. Which is true, and it's why people don't post onion links.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by inigyou »

fsflover wrote: post #112
andai wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah, then you're still dependent on Tor. The most independent way is to publish your blog on your own p2p network ;)

Tor is not a single point of failure: It is a p2p network.

How many directory authorities does Tor have and how many are needed for a consensus?

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by inigyou »

kay_o wrote: post #101
bblb wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article was a lot of words just to say that. It's sad that we need this new concept of "IndieWeb", as the whole Internet evolved into a monstrosity hosted and guardrailed by a handful of megacorporations. Hosting files became a privilege, when it should've been a (human) right all along. edit: The tech to host yourself is obviously still there, but the _mindset_ changed to cloud only.

> edit: The tech to host yourself is obviously still there, but the _mindset_ changed to cloud only. Sadly with CGNAT, port blocks, hosting any server being a terms of service violation...

Non-cloud shared hosting costs $2 per month

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by inigyou »

codazoda wrote: post #65
variety8675 wrote: post #2

It is nice to see a site preaching this that isn't hosted by Cloudflare or GitHub Pages

What’s your preference? I also “preach” GitHub pages a lot but I’ve also written about hosting on a Raspberry Pi in my bedroom. https://joeldare.com/private-analytics-and-my-raspberry-pi-4...

Literally anything that isn't big tech.

Small tech is fine. Self hosting is fine. VPSes are fine. Don't use "clouds" - they're big tech, and overpriced.

Make sure it's something you pay for, so that you are the customer, instead of the product.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by inigyou »

5701652400 wrote: post #99

this would work if we had free DNS. solving DNS to be trully decentralized and free is something for years I wish I had more time to work on and build key properties: 1. everyone can be a registar. your localhost too 2. blockchain proof of ownership and discovery (certs, not proof-of-work, fast and cheap ledger) 3. everyone can be a CA (self-signed certs pinned in blockchain) 4. no fixation on static IPs (inspired by…

Zooko's Triangle says you can't build a name resolution system that's secure, human readable, and decentralised.

DNS is secure (in Zooko's terms - means you can be certain a domain only has one correct resolution) and human readable.

.onion is secure and decentralised.

Petnames (as in I2P) or /etc/hosts are human readable and decentralised.

Also any centralised secure system will quickly have all the names squatted if they are free. It's bad enough at current prices. For instance every dictionary word under .com is already taken. If they cost nothing it would be every pronounceable sequence of up to 12 letters.

Nothing is actually stopping you running "weird DNS" on your home network if you implement the DNS protocol towards clients. I suggest you get familiar with the program Unbound. It's very common for networks to use alternative DNS if only to address the devices on the network.

Also IPs weren't originally meant to be ephemeral. You can get an address block registered to you (v6 only of course, there's no more v4) for a pretty reasonable nominal fee.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by bluedragon1221 »

inigyou wrote: post #130
mattlondon wrote: post #114

Personally I have used GitHub pages and cloudflare pages for hosting static sites and have been very happy with them considering the zero cost involved. I don't think there is much difference between paying nearlyfreespeech (which I have done in the past) Vs using GitHub or cloudflare - you are still reliant on a third party for actual hosting. I don't really see any value in self-hosting myself - apart from nerdy sa…

When you pay for something, you stop being the product and become the customer instead. That's a big deal .

I've never understood this mentality. Why can't they still sell your data after you pay them? Porque no los dos?

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by inigyou »

bluedragon1221 wrote: post #136
inigyou wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you pay for something, you stop being the product and become the customer instead. That's a big deal .

I've never understood this mentality. Why can't they still sell your data after you pay them? Porque no los dos?

So never bother with anything, am I right? Anything could be bad. Why eat the burger instead of the cyanide pill when there could be cyanide in the burger?

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by inigyou »

rglullis wrote: post #116
raytopia wrote: post #46

Nearlyfreespeech is a great service though not a 100% independent as your still relying on them. I think the closest you can get to 100% independent without running your own internet infrastructure is either port forwarding from your home (if allowed) or hosting a website through TOR which isn't too hard. You just have to download the browser and edit a config file (torrc) with the port you want on the network. Not i…

Perfect is enemy of the good. Like you said, the only way to be truly independent if people ran their own infrastructure, and if all the hardware was as 100% FOSS. Of all the compromises we have to do (relying on Telco providers, equipment manufacurers, etc), using Nearlyfreespeech is the less risky one. They have no history of abusing the trust users have placed on them, and service costs virtually nothing.

The internet isn't even capable of handling 8 billion people each with their own infrastructure. Even if everyone got IPv6 and their own PI address block, most DFZ routers can't handle that many routing table entries. Pooling resources is mandatory for the internet to work. However, there needs to be (and are) plenty of choices of who to pool with, so that you can find a trustworthy one.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by Krei-se »

raytopia wrote: post #46

Nearlyfreespeech is a great service though not a 100% independent as your still relying on them. I think the closest you can get to 100% independent without running your own internet infrastructure is either port forwarding from your home (if allowed) or hosting a website through TOR which isn't too hard. You just have to download the browser and edit a config file (torrc) with the port you want on the network. Not i…

i host myself with 2 fixed IPs from telekom germany business, its not as expensive as one might expect, under 90€ for a fiber and vdsl line, so next to hosting your own auth ns servers and mail you get failover at home which is nice.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by inigyou »

onetrickwolf wrote: post #45
busymom0 wrote: post #8

I self host my site [1] on an old Mac mini in a Swift backend and sqlite database. Only thing I rely upon someone for is Cloudflare tunnels for free. I could replace that with port forwarding but so far, this way is pretty good. [1] https://limereader.com/

I have something similar. I use Cloudflare tunnels too but also their CDN which is free (for now). That's the only thing I haven't really been able to figure out how to do on my own. Back in the day, hosting a static site from my crappy DSL connection was basically no problem and most people who were accessing my site were probably in my timezone. Now with how big the web is and how many bots there are, I worry about…

Bots are over-fearmongered. Yes, you get a lot of bot traffic to any website. No, it isn't a ddos unless you make it a ddos by making your server do 10 seconds of computation on every page load. Just keep an eye on server load so you know when a solution is actually needed, and you'll be fine. Install Anubis if you want to, but there are even simpler checks, like requiring an image or CSS file to be loaded or setting a cookie or putting a simple redirect in JavaScript or meta-refresh.
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