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Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by 5701652400 »

bunbun69 wrote: post #105
5701652400 wrote: post #99

this would work if we had free DNS. solving DNS to be trully decentralized and free is something for years I wish I had more time to work on and build key properties: 1. everyone can be a registar. your localhost too 2. blockchain proof of ownership and discovery (certs, not proof-of-work, fast and cheap ledger) 3. everyone can be a CA (self-signed certs pinned in blockchain) 4. no fixation on static IPs (inspired by…

You can’t build your own engine outside of the EU, but you can still build on top of the existing Safari engine. What you’re describing is technically possible. However, why would a company build something just for a handful of people?

I guess if you are Epic games, and you do not want to be blocked or controlled by App Stores, or pay 30% paycut. maybe you would build and support independent (from google/apple monopoly) interenet stack.

or if you are EU/China and do not want google DNS and networkign layer owning entire EU/China

in all cases they would still want centralized control by each state/company.

how to align incentives of someone who can actually pull this off and still keep it decentralized is a big question.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by fsflover »

andai wrote: post #87
raytopia wrote: post #46

Nearlyfreespeech is a great service though not a 100% independent as your still relying on them. I think the closest you can get to 100% independent without running your own internet infrastructure is either port forwarding from your home (if allowed) or hosting a website through TOR which isn't too hard. You just have to download the browser and edit a config file (torrc) with the port you want on the network. Not i…

Nah, then you're still dependent on Tor. The most independent way is to publish your blog on your own p2p network ;)

Tor is not a single point of failure: It is a p2p network.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by smalltorch »

pastel8739 wrote: post #85
smalltorch wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Making something as easy as possible to try demonstrates why you need to pay a penny? I don't follow.

Yes, exactly. Because if you’d paid that penny for a server on the regular internet you would just link to the real site

I just happen to not self-host my own code base. But your acting like I paid a penny for that, and self hosting git isn't possible, and we aren't on a forum which exists on the commercial internet.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by mattlondon »

Personally I have used GitHub pages and cloudflare pages for hosting static sites and have been very happy with them considering the zero cost involved.

I don't think there is much difference between paying nearlyfreespeech (which I have done in the past) Vs using GitHub or cloudflare - you are still reliant on a third party for actual hosting. I don't really see any value in self-hosting myself - apart from nerdy satisfaction etc, I don't see the need.

The important part in my mind is the fact that I am manually controlling the assets - the HTML the images etc. Simple files on disk.

The git integration with GitHub and cloudflare though is obviously a huge boon though as now I have an off-site backup, and publishing is even more seamless than the old FTP/sftp days - just push to master from within vscode where you are editing the files anyway and it'll be live in 30 seconds (as well as backed up).

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by kristiandupont »

shermantanktop wrote: post #59
shermantanktop wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I encountered juniors straight out of school who don’t know what tar is, or rsync, or what a symlink is. It’s all learnable and everyone starts somewhere. But you’d think natural curiosity would kick in and they’d have picked up some of this on their own by the time they have a job.

Ok, sure, windows. But here’s one I heard literally two days ago: we counted three engineers (out of many) who knew that physical memory was not actually a giant flat space of contiguous addresses, and that there were multiple layers of address-mapping and region-joining glue logic between a program and the hardware, including in os libraries, and even inside the hardware. Maybe knowing such information is archaic or…

I wrote x86 assembly back when we were switching from real mode to protected mode, and I still have a feeling that I would not have been able to answer whatever question you asked there in a way that would satisfy you.

I also could no longer tell you how to balance a binary tree or implement Quicksort.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by rglullis »

raytopia wrote: post #46

Nearlyfreespeech is a great service though not a 100% independent as your still relying on them. I think the closest you can get to 100% independent without running your own internet infrastructure is either port forwarding from your home (if allowed) or hosting a website through TOR which isn't too hard. You just have to download the browser and edit a config file (torrc) with the port you want on the network. Not i…

Perfect is enemy of the good. Like you said, the only way to be truly independent if people ran their own infrastructure, and if all the hardware was as 100% FOSS.

Of all the compromises we have to do (relying on Telco providers, equipment manufacurers, etc), using Nearlyfreespeech is the less risky one. They have no history of abusing the trust users have placed on them, and service costs virtually nothing.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by rglullis »

smalltorch wrote: post #113
pastel8739 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, exactly. Because if you’d paid that penny for a server on the regular internet you would just link to the real site

I just happen to not self-host my own code base. But your acting like I paid a penny for that, and self hosting git isn't possible, and we aren't on a forum which exists on the commercial internet.

What a silly deflection. The point is obvious: if it is as trivial as you are saying, why aren't you self-hosting?

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by dspillett »

pastel8739 wrote: post #85
smalltorch wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Making something as easy as possible to try demonstrates why you need to pay a penny? I don't follow.

Yes, exactly. Because if you’d paid that penny for a server on the regular internet you would just link to the real site

Perhaps. Perhaps not…

A source repo link often gets more traction here than a link to what might turn out to be a closed, probably subscription based, service. The repo's main readme likely links direct to the product/ service/other main location [if the forge isn't being used as that] or demo location [if a public demo instance exists] should that be where I want to go immediately.

Though maybe posting both the repo link and a "live" link would be better still.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by dizhn »

jdjdjdjdjd wrote: post #9

Kind of funny that this is like some strange new concept... Having a web server and putting your stuff on it.

We are a long removed from when putting something in your public_html folder would instantly give you a personal web site. Not that I am saying people should still hand write html or anything but it was a very quick and natural way to participate back in the day. (A unix account usually gave you automatic p2p chat too using finger to see if your buddy was online and talk/ytalk to talk to them.) This was little less than magic at the time even when your friend was sitting on the terminal right next to you.

Re: Hardcore IndieWeb: Run your own website 100% independently for only $0.01/day

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Post by smalltorch »

rglullis wrote: post #117
smalltorch wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just happen to not self-host my own code base. But your acting like I paid a penny for that, and self hosting git isn't possible, and we aren't on a forum which exists on the commercial internet.

What a silly deflection. The point is obvious: if it is as trivial as you are saying, why aren't you self-hosting?

I am? Just not my codebase lol. I don't see why the two ideas need conflated.
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