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Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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Post by Scroll_Swe »

holoduke wrote: post #467
Scroll_Swe wrote: post #386

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China is still a dictatorship who massacred its own people despite building high speed rail... They only got it good when the USA opened relations in the 80s something they never did with Soviet. China does not have universal health care. China helps Russia invade Ukraine. That is simple. Unless you like that too? Also, where do people want to live? North EU. Yet when we keep our lands people call us racist.

Are you serious? Who is killing thousands abroad and playing corrupt mobster mister policeman in the entire world? Or course China is supporting Russia. It's geopolitics. The west needs enlargement of their influence in Ukraine. Russia doesn't like this. A failing Russia means China is next. Hard to understand? And China does have universal affordable healthcare. Maybe, just maybe you should visit one of the large ci…

>The west needs enlargement of their influence in Ukraine

Okay so you have swallowed the Russia and China propaganda fully. Yes, China has better living conditions now than 20 years ago.

Ukraine is its own country since 1991 and on their own want to move closer to the west, NATO and EU.

Russia invaded Ukraine as Putin is the one who want "enlargement of their influence"

If you think above, how can you blame me in the west for opposing Russia and China? I live in Sweden, we have Kaliningrad with nukes right across us. We had Soviet submarines in our waters in the 80s.

A fallen Ukraine means Russia and Putin and by extension China will invade the Baltics or Poland next. Hard to understand?

Where do you live?

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Post by konraditurbe »

teraflop wrote: post #233
sen wrote: post #13

I’ve owned a lot of Gopro cameras, having done video capture for a variety of motorsports, and they just got too expensive for what you get. You can be more expensive if you’re better, or you can be worse if you’re cheaper, but they’re both the downsides while living purely off brand recognition. They also blew up in a time where there wasn’t any real competition. Sony had action cameras but they were bulkier and exp…

One cool feature I've read about is that (at least some) GoPro cameras can save high-resolution IMU measurements to the recorded video files, timestamped and interleaved with video frames. This can be useful for mapping applications, e.g. https://joshi-bharat.github.io/projects/gopro/ Are there any competitors on the market that also have this feature? I've looked around a few times in the past and haven't found any.…

Both Insta360 and DJI cameras save IMU / magnetometer data to their video files.

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Post by oneshtein »

orthoxerox wrote: post #498
oneshtein wrote: post #456

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Many eastern europeans who had good life in soviet block have nostalgia, however, Ukraine fights with all it power to prevent returning back to soviet block, because majority have very unpleasant memories of soviet times and dozens of millions murdered by soviets.

Ukrainians were the Soviets. It's like Scotland complaining about British colonial policy.

Ukraine broke out of Russian Empire and then conquered back by Red army, then conquered Republics of Ukraine and Belarus together with Russian Federation formed USSR.

So, yes, Ukrainian communists were with those soviets, who murdered other Ukrainians (and other enslaved nations), and then their siblings have nostalgia about «good times».

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

Scroll_Swe wrote: post #378
ErroneousBosh wrote: post #296

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Next year you'll have a fair old choice of drones from Ukrainian manufacturers though, when they're no longer needed to defeat Putin.

And remember dear readers, China and Iran openly helps Russia in their invasion of Ukraine. It is like the cold war never ended. China's covert military training of Russian forces last year was personally approved by President Vladimir Putin's defence minister and directly involved at least four Russian and Chinese generals, according to two European officials and documents seen by Reuters. https://www.reuters.com/bu…

> Iran helps with Shaeed Drones as known

This ought to be a useful message for the US, too, whose Russian-owned government didn't want to help provide Ukraine with much in the way of weapons.

The US got an absolute pasting in Hormuz from Iranian drones, and maybe if they'd had some Ukrainian kit they'd have come off a little better.

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Post by lostlogin »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #444
lostlogin wrote: post #376

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> What country and what industries? New Zealand. Meat exports and dairy.

I would assume that China is your biggest trade partner for both of those categories. Is the US a major trade partner for either of those categories? I find it hard to believe. The US (and most rich countries) have way too much domestic dairy farm capacity. As a result, there is lots of govt subsidies paid to dairy farmers.

The US is our largest market for meat exports. Our top dairy markets are all in Asia, China being too.

https://www.stats.govt.nz/news/meat-exports-reach-10-billion...

https://www.stats.govt.nz/news/growth-in-export-markets-for-...

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Post by belowavgiq »

thephyber wrote: post #505
Robotbeat wrote: post #89

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GoPro is a US company designed in U.S. with manufacturing in Thailand, China, and Mexico. Insta360 is a Chinese company designed in Shenzhen and built there, too. People think this doesn’t matter, but GoPros are used all over in aerospace. If we replaced the brand with Insta360, that puts a big attack vector all over the place. A similar pattern happened with drones with DJI, intentionally killing all non-Chinese dro…

This is written like an American who is both ignorant of cybersecurity, American politics, and of the advantages that the US has benefitted from since at least WW2. The core points are: - we can't trust a connected GoPro device any more than a connected DJI device - Just because a device is developed in China doesn't make it a vulnerability. - Just because a device is made in the US doesn't make it resistant to vulne…

His point wasn't that chinese-made products have more vulnerabilities, what? what are these reading skills. GoPro has probably never been in a patent litigation in their favor. His point wasn't limited to GoPro either.

The main driving force isn't anything but the simple fact that they can undercut everyone. Some of it is innovation in production methods, some of it subsidies, some of it is the low salaries, some of it is the 12hour shifts seen as normal.

Is it deserved? Sure. They let western companies unintentionally ship their entire know-how to China. Is it OK from a US perspective, does it mean that they can't do anything now, and should just source Chinese products for everything? Hell no.

Thanks for making HN as braindead as Reddit! Thanks to people like you, I'm becoming a master at translating Chinese socials!

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Post by inigyou »

GiorgioG wrote: post #400
inigyou wrote: post #329

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So we Americans love our kickass flag…so what? It wasn’t until relatively recent times that it became intertwined with whatever the fuck our current president stands for (for the next 12 seconds). I’ve had a US flag up on my house for the past 15 years. This country has been good to the son of European immigrants. It’s far from perfect but I love my country. Meanwhile my European cousins, aunts and uncles are scrapin…

Why do Americans think their flag is kickass?

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Post by hmm37 »

Robotbeat wrote: post #401
coldtea wrote: post #288

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> But China’s industrial dominance is also the government immiserating its people Didn't they bring hundreds of millions out of poverty, and built amazing cities and facilities in the past 30 years? > Domestic consumption in China is famously low Compared to what, the US? Compared to China is at a historical high, isn't it? And they're doing quite well even compared to like 70% of the world and rising.

Not as much as their East Asian neighbors, who had increasing democracy and fewer deaths to starvation…

The Eastern neighbors all also had way more outside funding....

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Post by romaaeterna »

wisty wrote: post #455
adrianN wrote: post #103

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If your country’s industrial and defense policy relies on individual consumers making choices that are worse for them on almost all metrics, it’s time to think about on worse payroll your politicians are.

So Trump was right to call for tariffs?

There's no real solution other than long-term tariffs. However the President doesn't have the power to do it and Congress doesn't have the willpower. 6-month flash-in-the-pan efforts can only cause chaos.
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