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The lost joy of music piracy

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Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Audiogalaxy was awesome. I loved how you could browse every file that had ever been online, rather than just what was online now, and queue them up for when they came online again. I’d just leave it running on our dial up connection when everyone went out of the house (no dedicated line so you’d clog up the phone, the good old days haha) and then come back to some exciting downloads I’d totally forgotten that I ever…

Audiogalaxy dev here. That was my favorite part of the design. One of my other favorite parts was that prioritized matches based on how similar their domain name was to yours, so a lot of times you would end up grabbing files from someone in the same dorm or city (cable modem IPs had hostnames back then had the city in the name).

Thank you! Something about the site allowed for wonderful serendipity for finding music. I had a blast.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Indeed. I'm a member of a few music trackers and they have a lot of great stuff, but What's archive was amazing. One of my proudest things I own is a What.cd beer cooler I bought from them.

Here's the other side of the issue for these platforms, they're profiteering from the criminality of the users

In a legal sense? Absolutely.

In a real sense? What.CD and it’s likes didn’t even come close to being a profitable use of their operators time.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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It's important to remember that to this day, streaming sites do not have a full archive of the music out there. There is still a need for music piracy Even albums mentioned in the Norwegian business magazine D2 can be impossible to find in legit channels. Your only option is to buy used CDs on Discogs for 50-100 USD, or know your way around the successors of these sites These CDs weren’t even on Oink or What (or did…

Some music is a lot like abandoned video games. It can sometimes be tricky to figure out who owns the rights and, even having done that, more difficult still to track them down and get their permission. Also, it's not a given that the answer will be, "Yes.". If you ask an obscure artist to fill out forms and jump through hoops for 6 cents in streaming royalties, they may tell you to piss off. There are likely many al…

This is where YouTube Music really shines, in a way. It lets every Tom, Dick & Harry upload whatever-the-hell, and as long as it doesn't ping off the major labels' copyright signatures then it stays and YouTube (supposedly) does some accounting around the back to try and figure out where the royalties should go.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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We forget that the labels also consider that piracy. For a while there were attempts to make CDs un-rippable. Streaming (which pays labels and artists much less) only exists because it's the compromise that solves the "service problem" side of piracy.

> We forget that the labels also consider that piracy. For a while there were attempts to make CDs un-rippable. One of these attempts that I assume most people are familiar with but is an interesting read for those that aren't: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootk...

The irony was that Sony wanted all those CDs on streaming, so they sent them to me to rip because they didn't have any other proper digital copy for ingestion at the time. (It wasn't just the rootkit ones, either, they tried a bunch of other really ugly methods across their catalogue to stop the CDs being useable in a CD-ROM drive)

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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spotify doesn't contain every music album released.

Nothing does

I fully expected the GP reply! I am stunned how much music is on Spotify. I'm not here to say that Spotify is perfect, but I can almost never find something that isn't available on Spotify.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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The thing I miss most, and the thing we’ll never get back was the cultural buy-in and network effects. My music discovery then was different friend groups incrementally amassing large collections of albums in whatever sub-culture that friend groups had doubled down on. My iPod would be the culmination of my friendships. I would then fall in love with bands and albums and tracks on these albums without any influence b…

> I make an effort to use Spotify to find and listen to albums, but it wasn’t built for this, and invariably find 90% of my listening happening on algo-generated playlists of songs that sound exactly like a song I like. I never learn the names of the songs or the names of the bands as the songs go by, and I fall in love with none of it… It just vaguely sounds like stuff I like. It sucks. I don't think algorithms are…

LLMs give more serendipitous music recommendations than spotify.

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I'm very serious. It's not a simple matter to get any sort of exportable data from these cloud services, and they won't bother to notify you that media that was on your playlist or in your library has been removed. I gave Apple Music a try for about a year. and even that relatively small migration was hellish. I have an easy time managing a playlist through the many available audio player frontends writing to an .m3u…

no one gonna delete your playlist, stop making shit up

And Sony would never remove movies from your account

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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What? I find plenty of jazz and classical music on youtube. yt-dlp -x is your friend. I find it amusing that youtube can be the source of my "pirated" music and get away with it. But the piratebay guys got their lives smashed to pieces. But that I guess, is our civilization today. One set of rules for politicians and corporations, and one set for the slaves.

TPB were actively advocating and facilitating the upload of owned content. YT reacts to takedown requests and even re-directs advertising revenue to the rights holders. You know TPB is a company right? They even run a paid VPN service. And half of their business was "bulletproof hosting".

Plenty of pirate material on yt, and I couldn't care less about what organizational format tpb have. I'll support them against Google every day of the week, since they are not hellbent on creating a socialist surveillance society.
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