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Re: Elixir-lang.org has a new design

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I don't think Machine Learning falls under what most people consider "AI" and "LLM" these days, even if they're technically intertwined.

Machine learning used to be used as a buzzword alongside AI, though nowadays after the release of ChatGPT it seems they've settled on AI.

Machine learning used to be considered a subset of AI. AI encompassed any algorithms that exhibited "intelligence" (e.g. a chess engine), while machine learning was scoped to algorithms that required training (e.g. a neural network).

Re: Elixir-lang.org has a new design

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It’s pretty hard to make things like math faster for real world use cases in a bytecode interpreter.

i ran a quick experiment where instead of doing boxing the way its done in the beam currently, i used a different boxing (NaN strategy and there was a 10x speedup

oh, I didn't recognize your username here! It's been ages since I've seen you. Hope you'll be in Chicago in September.

Re: Elixir-lang.org has a new design

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Elixir is such an elegant language. I'm hoping to find a reason to use it soon.

I'm hoping to find a reason to use it soon. Do you have a program that doesn't need to run fast?

Why not use Java, C#, or Swift in that case?

Re: Elixir-lang.org has a new design

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José Valim & team have made such an incredible language and ecosystem. thank you for all the faithful work, especially the run up to 1.20 over this past year

I heard from a fan of Erlang that Elixir was made by people who don't really understand Erlang who reworked it/BEAM to be in the style of Ruby; that made it popular even though it's an abomination. What do you think?

Re: Elixir-lang.org has a new design

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They have a Machine Learning section on the front page. Just have to scroll down a bit, under the "Use Elixir for" section.

I don't think Machine Learning falls under what most people consider "AI" and "LLM" these days, even if they're technically intertwined.

In this particular case it means the Nx ecosystem, which is a solid Numpy alternative.

Re: Elixir-lang.org has a new design

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post #114

José Valim & team have made such an incredible language and ecosystem. thank you for all the faithful work, especially the run up to 1.20 over this past year

I heard from a fan of Erlang that Elixir was made by people who don't really understand Erlang who reworked it/BEAM to be in the style of Ruby; that made it popular even though it's an abomination. What do you think?

A “fan” of erlang definitely gives me vibes if the 3-4 people at conferences who used to debate about Erlang and Haskell and all these things in very academic ways and enjoyed it.

And that’s awesome. We need people like that. But the vast majority of people want to get stuff done, and I have always admired that Jose Valim seems to be one of those people that just “gets” the mix of good technology with its PRACTICAL use rather than just debating programming languages endlessly.

Without elixir, outside of a handful of companies implementing it in their core systems, erlang probably would’ve mostly remained in the domain of the same guys at conferences that passionately debated tabs vs spaces or BDD vs TDD. In fact, I think that’s exactly where Haskell is. I barely hear about it, just like I used to barely hear about erlang.

The rest of us that focus on what we’re building with the technology or the dev UX, etc, would’ve stuck to ruby and other things, if not for elixir.

I say this as someone who has been writing elixir full time since early 2016 and absolutely love the beam. And I’ve yet to edit my first erlang file. It just hasn’t mattered in most of my real world use.

Re: Elixir-lang.org has a new design

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post #114

José Valim & team have made such an incredible language and ecosystem. thank you for all the faithful work, especially the run up to 1.20 over this past year

I heard from a fan of Erlang that Elixir was made by people who don't really understand Erlang who reworked it/BEAM to be in the style of Ruby; that made it popular even though it's an abomination. What do you think?

I don't think this is true.

The history of Elixir has its roots in Jose learning Erlang, loving the properties BEAM, but wanting a different language.

All of the principles of the BEAM still exist in Elixir. And a lot of the Elixir semantics come from Erlang, precisely because Jose studied Erlang and the BEAM.

Re: Elixir-lang.org has a new design

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post #114

José Valim & team have made such an incredible language and ecosystem. thank you for all the faithful work, especially the run up to 1.20 over this past year

I heard from a fan of Erlang that Elixir was made by people who don't really understand Erlang who reworked it/BEAM to be in the style of Ruby; that made it popular even though it's an abomination. What do you think?

Absurd statement. If you omit surface-level syntax, there's very little that's "in the style of Ruby" in terms of actual semantics.
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