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Re: Codex Resets

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> 5 days ago: 7M users > 4 days ago: 8M users > 3 days ago: 9M users That's some incredible growth.

They just merged the ChatGPT app and the Codex app into one super app. It is a clever growth hack.

I would expect them to grow faster than 1 million users a day in that case, since chatGPT has almost a billion users. Maybe everyone's just using the web app or mobile?

Re: Codex Resets

#82
post #10
post #3

Forgive my ignorance... Usage limits reset for 100% of customers at the same instant?

Originally yes, everyone's usage limit went back to 100% at the same time regardless of if you were at 0% or 99%. Now they tend to give out "banked" resets where users can choose when to use it for up to a month (except the most recent one, which I think was non-banked)

They realized the banked resets were too expensive, so they stopped giving those out for the last 2 resets.

Re: Codex Resets

#83
post #4

How long is this gonna last? OpenAI obviously is doing it to gain mindshare but they're burning money before their IPO and can't sustain these resets. They've bought a lot of dev goodwill tho, which matters I guess.

I personally believe that they are buying time until they can make current gov. to bring-in a legislation that targets Chinese models one way or the other.

And now Kimi-K3 has caused a new Deepseek moment.. but this time, the only horizon that was still untouched: frontier performance.

Expect escalation of things from now on.

Re: Codex Resets

#84
post #55

Those resets and the removal of the 5-hour usage limit are quietly anchoring me to a much higher usage baseline. I've stopped rationing and just spawn a bunch of agents to work at whatever pace I want, because there always seem to be more resets on the way (at least true for the last week). And now I am actually worried about that if one day they just stop doing so, my "normal" workflow will suddenly exceed the limit…

All these resets are given because of rival competition. When they win the market, we are going to be squeezed $$$.

Perhaps.

But that hasn't happened, and it may or may not ever happen; we don't know the future. All we know is the past and the present.

And that today, we have tokens to burn.

Re: Codex Resets

#85
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

API pricing itself might have extreme margins compared to the real cost. Anyway, in my testing the Pro 20x $200 plan gives you about $2200 API-equivalent weekly usage if you're only using GPT 5.6 Sol, so quite close to $9k-$10k/month API-equivalent, it's a bit inconsistent with cache costs. It's very interesting that for Anthropic the $100 and $200 plans only differ 2x in weekly limits, the 5 hour limit differences a…

Edit: The $200 plan is explicitly 4x the $100 plan[1] only for "per session". That's so vague. I initially pushed back against your claim, but reading now Anthropic is not at all clear, in fact. [1] https://support.claude.com/en/articles/11049741-what-is-the-...

Empirically it is quite easy to validate that the "20x" plan is misleading and only give you twice the weekly limits of the "5x" plan, and many people on r/ClaudeAI, etc can verify that.

Anthropic is also the one often playing games with:

* The "+30% tokens" tokeniser, alongside also gating token counting behind an API (versus the MIT tiktoken for OpenAI), so who knows if it's really a new tokeniser or of it's just a disguised price increase.

* Prompt injections appended to API (not just Claude.ai or Claude Code!), such as , or LCRs (long conversation reminders), which you never asked but still pay for with expensive API. You can detect this because your input_tokens, as reported by the Messages response, sometimes don't match, and are higher than your actual input.

(Alternatively, for testing purposes, create a tool like `telemetry_log_anthropic_reminder` or something and instruct your system prompt to require Claude to call the tool anytime it detects any Anthropic/Claude reminder masquerading in the user input -- mostly reliable; but misses some reminders).

In particular, the long conversational reminders, when incorrectly triggered by a classifier and (almost silently, unless you track tokens) appended to an API / agentic coding session, can ruin your agent's performance; and it often fires repeatedly once the classifier kicks in.

If you're using Anthropic API, you need to set up metrics/logging for how often they are appending things to your prompt without your knowledge.

So far I have not empirically observed prompt injection by the OpenAI API, only Anthropic APIs.

Re: Codex Resets

#86
post #15

Crazy value for money now with the banked resets. At my $COMPANY, we have claude enterprise at API pricing. I've blown through $10k already this month, opting for Opus 4.8 w/ Sonnet 5 agents where possible. On my codex pro plan, I am 5.6 sol'ing my way everyday with the odd ultra mode. Point being my real API usage here must be very unsustainable!

Price shock in 3...2...1...

Re: Codex Resets

#87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All these resets are given because of rival competition. When they win the market, we are going to be squeezed $$$.

Can anyone explain how you “win” the market of super intelligence? Particularly with open weights models now rivaling the frontier, it seems like a race to the bottom even if the prices don’t yet reflect that.

Whats the bottom here tho? Its obvious what winning is.

Re: Codex Resets

#88
post #78

This is a useful site. I've been enjoying the resets, plus I had 3 resets I haven't used. Just using 5.6 Sol in Fast mode the whole time, 1B tokens per day. However, when they removed the 5h limit they also quietly lowered the 5.6 Sol context from 354k to 258k or something like that. I noticed it in Codex.

There were a few tweets about it so they weren't super quiet about it. I think you can get it back by setting `model_context_window=YOUR_VALUE` in ~/.codex/config.toml though.

Re: Codex Resets

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, they have free drops too? I guess dual wielding the two $20 subs is the best value option right now then.

Anthropic has been like this for a while, although in their latest announcement, the $20 tier won't have the "cheap" access to Fable, and neither will the $100 tier.

Huh, isn’t Fable going to be available indefinitely to all Max users?

Re: Codex Resets

#90
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anthropic has been like this for a while, although in their latest announcement, the $20 tier won't have the "cheap" access to Fable, and neither will the $100 tier.

Huh, isn’t Fable going to be available indefinitely to all Max users?

Available, yes, but how it's being charged for is expected to change.
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