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Given that there are so few trans athletes and assuming there is no advantage over women, it is very surprising that we have seen so many trans gold medalists.
Best I can tell there are currently zero trans Olympic gold medalists. Did I misunderstand your post, or if not, what am I missing? Edit: I did find Canadian soccer player Quinn who is described interchangeably as non-binary and trans, despite those two things not being the same. The Canadian team did win Olympic gold in 2020. So maybe there’s one?
Given that there are so few trans athletes and assuming there is no advantage over women, it is very surprising that we have seen so many trans gold medalists.
There's zero of those AFAIK. However every time a trans athlete sneezes it's a week's worth of ready-made outrage on Fox and similar far-right story peddlers, which is why there's so much awareness around them despite their vanishingly-small presence.
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Best I can tell there are currently zero trans Olympic gold medalists. Did I misunderstand your post, or if not, what am I missing? Edit: I did find Canadian soccer player Quinn who is described interchangeably as non-binary and trans, despite those two things not being the same. The Canadian team did win Olympic gold in 2020. So maybe there’s one?
The 2024 Olympic gold medalists in women's boxing, Imane Khelif (Algeria) and Lin Yu-ting (Taiwan).
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The 2024 Olympic gold medalists in women's boxing, Imane Khelif (Algeria) and Lin Yu-ting (Taiwan).
Neither Imane Khelif nor Lin Yu-ting are transgender [1][2]. There is no possible good faith reason for leevilux to claim otherwise. (It makes me wonder about the overlap between transphobia and misogyny.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imane_Khelif [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lin_Yu-ting
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Neither Imane Khelif nor Lin Yu-ting are transgender [1][2]. There is no possible good faith reason for leevilux to claim otherwise. (It makes me wonder about the overlap between transphobia and misogyny.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imane_Khelif [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lin_Yu-ting
That is true, but they are both male athletes, with male physiological advantage, competing in the female category. Which is the same problem.
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That is true, but they are both male athletes, with male physiological advantage, competing in the female category. Which is the same problem.
There is no possible good faith reason for nicenicen to double down on leevilux's blatant falsehoods. Imane Khelif and Lin Yu-ting were assigned female at birth, and have always been women.
It's the same disorder Caster Semenya has. Semenya is another male athlete who took gold in the female category in the Olympics, for the women's 800m. While two other males took silver and bronze. No trans identity, but the same issue of being mistakenly assigned female at birth and, many years later, having this erroneous birth record used to compete as if female, despite how unfair this was to female athletes.
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There is no possible good faith reason for nicenicen to double down on leevilux's blatant falsehoods. Imane Khelif and Lin Yu-ting were assigned female at birth, and have always been women.
Lin kept quiet after failing sex verification so we don't know the full details, but Khelif was interviewed recently and confirmed having the SRY gene and taking medication to suppress testosterone. The results of Khelif's karyotype testing have also been published, and show XY chromosomes. Excerpts of Khelif's medical file were obtained by an investigative journalist, and show a diagnosis of 5-ARD, which is a disord…
If you're referring to the reportedly leaked 2023 Kremlin-Bicêtre hospital assessment by doctors Jacques Young and Soumaya Fedala, (assuming that the leak is real) the assessment concluded that Imane Khelif is female based on the entirety of her clinical history (as well as the parts of the report which were not leaked?). Khelif is very likely to have XY chromosomes (not certain because the SRY gene that she confirmed is not 100% indicative of the XY chromosome pair) and I was incorrect to conclusively refer to her as female, but based on her physical development, on a scale between female and male I don't think Khelif crosses the ambiguous middle zone toward male.
> Lin kept quiet after failing sex verification so we don't know the full details
That is not evidence in any direction, and IBA did not reveal its testing methodology or data. That is, the IBA kept quiet. The IBA also contradicted itself [1] (ignore the pasted Wikipedia citation numbers):
> During the International Boxing Association (IBA) press conference in Paris on 5 August 2024, the position of the organization and its president Umar Kremlev regarding the nature of the conducted tests underwent changes and became contradictory. Initially, the IBA claimed that gender tests were conducted, but at the conference, Secretary General Chris Roberts spoke of "chromosome tests", while Kremlev asserted that the tests were aimed at determining testosterone levels in athletes. The situation was exacerbated by Kremlev's harsh statements; he repeatedly criticized IOC President Thomas Bach, declared his intention to initiate legal proceedings against him and expressed dissatisfaction with the Olympic Games opening ceremony, calling it "humiliating".[25][26][27][28] The IBA claimed to have used laboratories accredited by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) for testing, but WADA denied involvement in gender verification, stating it deals solely with anti-doping matters.