A study would presumably also find no clear advantage in a fistfight between a husband and wife? Protecting half the population is countably higher stakes.
Study finds no clear advantage for trans women over cisgender women in sports
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#22The amount of people who wade into this fight without knowing a single thing about HRT baffles me.
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Excellent reference
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> If one truly cared about (un)fairness in sports there are other issues that you'd address long before you ever even think of trans
Such as?
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#25Given that there are so few trans athletes and assuming there is no advantage over women, it is very surprising that we have seen so many trans gold medalists.
There's zero of those AFAIK. However every time a trans athlete sneezes it's a week's worth of ready-made outrage on Fox and similar far-right story peddlers, which is why there's so much awareness around them despite their vanishingly-small presence.
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#26The amount of people who wade into this fight without knowing a single thing about HRT baffles me.
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#27Despite title, this study did not investigate the question of sports advantage, at least not directly. It looked at physical fitness, concluding: > While transgender women exhibited higher lean mass than cisgender women, their physical fitness was comparable. Current evidence is mostly low certainty and has heterogenous quality but does not support theories of inherent athletic advantages for transgender women over c…
Yeah, it's just going to be pretty hard to really do any sort of good study here. Like, for example, is the individual in question currently on HRT? When did they start HRT? What is their current testosterone levels? And when we dive into a specific sport, how do they actually perform? The issue is that for any given sport there's like 1 or 2 transgender people participating in it.
> Like, for example, is the individual in question currently on HRT? When did they start HRT?
If you had read the short abstract of the linked article, you'd know that they addressed at least these points.
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#28Here's a detailed critique of this paper and its many flaws:
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> The easiest test for this: If you were presented with a way to include transgender people in sports in a perfectly fair manner, would you be in favor of it?
There already is: competing with others of the same sex. Most people have no issue with this.
As an example, consider Hergie Bacyadan in the Paris Olympics. There was no controversy at all, as this was perfectly fair.
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I've thought about this comment a lot over the past 3 days. It was the top comment in this discussion for a while.
People think about the world differently. Is there really no room for anyone to disagree with you without being a bigot?