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Re: Gleam Is Now on Tangled

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isodev wrote: post #114
nasso_dev wrote: post #102

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"being on tangled" really just means "publishing sh.tangled.* atproto records" the beauty of atproto means that you are in no way tied to the VC funded company behind the web app available at tangled.org. you merely publish your git repository using a protocol that this app will pick up and present with a nice UI any other app that speaks atproto and looks at those same sh.tangled.* records will be able to access eve…

> the beauty of atproto means that you are in no way tied to the VC funded company behind the web app This is false: you’re tied to both tangled (unless you want to self host a forge, which if you did you wouldn’t have picked tabgled) and Bluesky for your login to keep working (unless you want to self host a complex constellation of social media components).

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Re: Gleam Is Now on Tangled

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Post by OneDeuxTriSeiGo »

opem wrote: post #96
ashu1461 wrote: post #88

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Lot of new buzzwords learned today.

lol, true! Even for a single side project, that probably no one is gonna use, I often struggle for hours while choosing a name, meanwhile these folks...

That's the advantage of picking a theme. So the project is called tangled. So everything is string/web themed. Knots, spindles, bobbins, etc

Re: Gleam Is Now on Tangled

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Post by aruff »

nicce wrote: post #45
bpev wrote: post #9

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I use both. Tangled is missing some important features (private repos, protected branches). The ui feels more comfy to me, though. And Codeberg is quite slow for me. Idk if I can give you toooo much about migration, since I haven't used any CICD kind of stuff; just having repos to push to is super simple if you use their hosted knots. Also not too complicated to host a knot yourself; I'm hosting my own knot, and I li…

Tangled is also VC funded, something to consider.

It doesn't really matter, you can host your own knot (git backend), spindle (CI/CD worker), and there are already alternative apps to access the same public, consumable records without centralized infra: https://untangled.wisp.place/

Re: Gleam Is Now on Tangled

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Post by aruff »

isodev wrote: post #110
videah wrote: post #92

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If this is a concern you can just migrate to a different PDS

Apparently, that’s not enough. You will also need your own “app view” which means you will be self hosting an over engineered forge with social features you can’t use… so why go that road to begin with is beyond me tbh.

what do you think tangled is if not an alternative appview? Tangled moderation isn't affected by bluesky moderation at all unless your account is hosted by them and you do something highly illegal like posting CSAM (PDS moderation is mainly about legal-to-serve stuff). you don't need to use bluesky or have your account hosted on bluesky to use tangled.

Re: Gleam Is Now on Tangled

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Post by psionides »

vixalien wrote: post #6
propstober wrote: post #2

if anyone has more info on tangled would love to hear. been looking for a decentralized git provider for a while. started self hosting but was missing the social element

I think it's currently non-selfhostable. You can host your own git server (knot) and CI runner (spindle) but not really the UI/API itself, but they're working on changing it. Currently it's a bit centralised

Rudy from Blacksky set up their own copy of Tangled without Tangled guys even knowing about it, so it would look to me like it is self-hostable: https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:w4xbfzo7kqfes5zb7r6qv3rw/po...

Re: Gleam Is Now on Tangled

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Post by culi »

Planktonne wrote: post #5

This post needs a bunch more context; right now it's only immediately accessible to people who don't need the announcement [1]. [1] https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/curtains-for-zoosha

Gleam is a popular language amongst people who like Erlang or Elixir. They are both built for the BEAM virtual machine.

Tangled is a decentralized GitHub alternative built on ATProto (the same protocol as Bluesky)

Re: Gleam Is Now on Tangled

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Post by neko-moe »

nerdypepper wrote: post #129
isodev wrote: post #84

Picture this: someone “moderates” your bluesky account for some unrelated reason and you’re no longer able to manage your own source codes…

this is simply false: bluesky moderating your account will have no effect on what happens with it on tangled. on the off-chance that your account is hosted by bluesky's PDS AND your account gets deleted for violating their terms, yes, you will lose complete access to that account. you can avoid this by either following their TOS or hosting your own PDS or joining the tangled PDS instead.

or keeping your own plc rotation key and a backup of your user repo, then you can migrate even after bluesky issues a takedown on your user.

Re: Gleam Is Now on Tangled

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Post by m8s »

lavela wrote: post #91
shimman wrote: post #82

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We all know why... as a condition of some monetary support. It does give a sour taste, really shows what core values are: money > community. I'll just focus on using elixir for a project instead.

No I don't know this. Do you have any source for that?

There is no source because it's not true

Re: Gleam Is Now on Tangled

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Post by OneDeuxTriSeiGo »

isodev wrote: post #110
videah wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this is a concern you can just migrate to a different PDS

Apparently, that’s not enough. You will also need your own “app view” which means you will be self hosting an over engineered forge with social features you can’t use… so why go that road to begin with is beyond me tbh.

fwiw tangled itself is also an appview and they are gradually working on rebuilding it around their new XRPC oriented appview called bobbin.

The appeal of bobbin is it's fully stateless and pretty lightweight. IIRC you can run all the infra to run a proper tangled appview (including bobbin) all on your average lower middle end general purpose cloud instance.

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