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Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

#271
post #68

Well the site does not present Texas in a good light. Their .gov site presents me with this. Looks like they need to worry about their own site instead of worrying about out of state sites. >Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead > Firefox detected a potential security threat and did not continue to www.texasattorneygeneral.gov. If you visit this site, attackers could try to steal information like your passwords, ema…

If you add this [1] function to your shell and do

    fp www.texasattorneygeneral.gov
What do you see? Do you get the same fingerprint? I get:

    Testing via IPv4:
    texasattorneygeneral.gov.
    104.18.152.79
    104.18.94.91
    sha1 Fingerprint=D7:6B:D1:D8:58:5B:16:4A:0B:D8:41:5F:FF:4E:DA:2F:FA:90:4F:4D
    sha256 Fingerprint=94:4F:66:36:A5:AA:AF:17:3A:FD:9C:B6:F0:79:95:17:62:1C:8A:B8:B3:44:61:DD:61:BB:C1:26:C6:77:4F:0F
    notBefore=Jul  4 12:45:24 2026 GMT
    notAfter=Oct  2 13:45:15 2026 GMT

    Testing via IPv6:
    texasattorneygeneral.gov.
    # ( no IPv6 here )
Are you by chance somehow going to the APEX of the domain? The cert is only signed for www, not alt names.

[1] - https://nochan.net/b/Text-Crap/function_fingerprint.sh

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

#273

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.com is American.

But should it be? Verisign having control over it is a weird historical artifact of the early days of the internet.

all non-two-letter TLDs are American. I think we should ban them all and put them under .us, but it will never happen. You can't get there from here. Path dependence.

Also ICANN should have gotten the corporate death penalty when it announced gTLDs.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

#274
post #267

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Can Texas compel other states to arrest abortion clinic workers?

Did those abortion clinic workers perform an abortion in Texas? Then yes, they can. This website was providing services to the people of Texas, and Verisign provides services to the people of Texas as well.

yes, they provided services to Texas because someone in the extended family was in Texas and now they don't have an extra relative.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

#275
post #70

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So if I don’t do business in Texas, have no operations in Texas or otherwise deal with Texas in any way a state court should just be able to order a company to suspend my whole domain? I’m Canadian and Texas courts have zero authority over me so they can f*ck off.

But they do have authority over the domain registrar, so you’re vulnerable there no matter where you live. I don’t agree with the premise of age verification, but of course a prosecutor would go after the assets they can reach if enforcing local laws. They’ve done this for years when it comes to copyright infringement.

Verisign is HQ’d in Virginia and motherless is in the Netherlands. It is absolutey absurd that a state court in Texas should be able to order the complete suspension of this domain. At best they should be able order ISPs to block it in Texas.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

#276
post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did those abortion clinic workers perform an abortion in Texas? Then yes, they can. This website was providing services to the people of Texas, and Verisign provides services to the people of Texas as well.

yes, they provided services to Texas because someone in the extended family was in Texas and now they don't have an extra relative.

Has there been a single attempt at pressing this issue judicially, or is this just hypothetical? Common law legal systems are not based on "neener neener, gotcha!" technicalities, and are not computer systems.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

#277
post #33

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When you create the infrastructure, you make the rules. If a party doesn't like those rules, they are free to create their own replacement infrastructure and obtain global buy-in. ccTLDs already exist and their respective countries have sovereignty over those TLDs: the UK can disappear any .uk domain name it wants from the global internet. The .com TLD is American, and is therefore subject to American legal proceedin…

Yeah, that whole setup stinks. It actually gives a great use case to alternative DNS and decentralized infrastructure. Multiple Internets over Internet time. Sadly. Some damage can't be routed around.

Do people care this much about this specific porn site that they are willing to upend global infrastructure? Principles don't make precedent, it takes money and actual interest to do that.

The latent ability of the United States to shut off some specific domain within a TLD is never going to cause people at large to say "We'll make our own .com with blackjack and hookers!"

In this hypothetical new system, other DNS roots would exist - and for practicality's sake, wouldn't collide with the "old Internet." Nobody is reissuing .coms, they will pick some new TLD or system entirely.. this today is known as a "ccTLD." Are people interested enough in true sovereignty beyond what ccTLDs offer? What does that even look like?

Why do most businesses enjoying .com domains today want to move to your system of control? Nothing can be truly "decentralized" any more than the DNS of today is: countries effectively opt in one way or another - the internet is a cooperative system, much like international diplomacy.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

#278

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Wrong. Porn is considered protected speech unless it is considered “obscene” (which is an incredibly difficult bar to meet), and even possession of obscene material in one’s home is protected. C’mon, people, these issues are trivial to look up the facts about. There’s no excuse for ignorance here. https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/obscenity-and-pornog...

So nobody has ever gone to jail for possessing child porn?

Of course CSAM isn’t protected. This story isn’t about CSAM though.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

#279

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Damn, I didn't even considered this angle. Lot's 18+ items dont actually require age verification online. Yet porn/socials are being subjected to it. Just shows what priorities are.

Guns are good and equal freedom. Boobs are bad and lead to degeneracy. I hate this place.

Its only because every last thing in modern life is based on a lie.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

#280

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So nobody has ever gone to jail for possessing child porn?

Of course CSAM isn’t protected. This story isn’t about CSAM though.

So porn isn't protected speech?
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