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Re: The state of open source AI

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Post by ctkhn »

georgeburdell wrote: post #278
vitally3643 wrote: post #178

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That's probably pretty likely, but if we're honest, are LLMs built and funded by a hostile Chinese authoritarian regime any more dangerous or harmful than LLMs built and funded by a hostile American authoritarian regime? China absolutely does not have my best interests at heart, but America's technofascism is probably more immediately dangerous and harmful. Americans genuinely have more to fear from America than Chin…

One day in early June you’re going to need to parse an error log, and when you ask a Chinese LLM “What happened on June 4?” it will respond “absolutely nothing”

Source: I imagined it

Re: The state of open source AI

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Post by ctkhn »

slashdave wrote: post #310
ButlerianJihad wrote: post #294

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If you think about it, every corporation is essentially a fascist entity, or features many distinctly fascist aspects, in terms of internal governance, structure, culture, and relationship with the outside world. And I think that is why Americans haven't really resisted this trajectory, because so many Americans work within corporations as a fact of life, that they are quite accustomed to the workings of fascism, as…

Corporations don't have armies and prisons. Get a grip.

There are corporations like Blackwater and CoreCivic that subcontract both of these for the US government today or Wagner (RIP) in Russia. The pinkertons and the US state have also both taken on the role of corporate muscle in the past when workers went on strike

Re: The state of open source AI

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Post by silverlimetea »

Cyberdog wrote: post #165
silverlimetea wrote: post #69

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querySelectorAll('.quote')

querySelector/querySelectorAll() are great for plucking out deeply nested elements but if all you need is to find all elements of a certain class and the API gives you a tool to do exactly that, why not do that instead of reaching for the general-purpose Swiss army knife? Sure, the execution speed difference may be only measurable in microseconds, but it takes about the same amount of time to type so why not use the…

This is the specific tool. Wrapping it in Array.from is the extra step.

The Array-like already works for forEach and for .. of

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Post by lilbigdoot »

ctkhn wrote: post #352
slashdave wrote: post #310

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Corporations don't have armies and prisons. Get a grip.

There are corporations like Blackwater and CoreCivic that subcontract both of these for the US government today or Wagner (RIP) in Russia. The pinkertons and the US state have also both taken on the role of corporate muscle in the past when workers went on strike

They also have huge influence over our military and laws. I immediately thought of the banana wars

Re: The state of open source AI

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Post by lilbigdoot »

rescbr wrote: post #288
dom3k wrote: post #191

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I'm happier with my Opencode Go running with the pi harness than Claude Code at work currently. I'm not sure if this will be that big of a moat, at least in the software dev market.

I feel the same. I feel Anthropics' raw models are excellent, but Claude Code's bloat make them lose some potential. This and I very much miss reading the chain of thought. At least I have it on GLM-5.2.

I've tried GLM a few times but each time it ends up getting stuck in a loop and burning tons of tokens before I eventually kill it and restart. Has anyone had the same issue / know how to avoid it? I've been using Qwen 3.6 instead

Re: The state of open source AI

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Post by dmarcos »

chvid wrote: post #322
dmarcos wrote: post #154

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The outcome is plausible. Open weights models though look like a tactical more than a principled play by Chinese companies to overcome the disadvantage and difficulties to access western markets. Two issues: 1. If market conditions change they might decide to close down like Meta did. 2. If as you said models keep getting more expensive to train, is an open weights strategy financially sustainable? edit: typo

It is a principled play by the Chinese. You would not have Xi showing up at AI conferences and speaking quite clearly had this not been the case.

Principled: open source is the right thing to do for the greater good

Tactical: Open source is the best tool to advance whatever goals I have at the moment but that could change.

What’s evidence Xi and China are principled when it comes to open source / weights?

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Post by weakfish »

aleqs wrote: post #315
weakfish wrote: post #242

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I'm not sure I understand what part of my post this is in reference to. I agree that the democratic party gets a _lot_ of money. Are you contrasting to something in my post, or agreeing? Appreciate clarification, I could also just be dumb today

I think the point is that most of Democrats' supposed positions on the working class, climate, inequality etc. are purely performative. Their actual policies are 99% the same as Republicans and they essentially just as corrupt and beholden to the wealth class.

Oh yeah. Yep that is definitely true.

Re: The state of open source AI

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Post by dragontamer »

andymatuschak wrote: post #241

The prose is, of course, LLM-generated. https://www.pangram.com/history/29a71663-e6b2-4db6-87bd-b943... I'd be curious to learn more about how/why executives come to sign their names to this kind of writing. Maybe it feels like a natural iteration of the pre-existing experience of signing one's name to an assistant's manuscript, or a press release from staff in Comms? I don't know execs who do this kind of thing, so…

No. Keep Panagram a bit of a secret weapon. The minute Panagram becomes a metric the minute it becomes useless and we have to use something else.

Re: The state of open source AI

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Post by fnord77 »

blanched wrote: post #46
fnord77 wrote: post #29

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Just like opensource search engines killed google oh wait

I don’t even know the names of any open source search engines, but the open source models perform decently on various benchmarks and in personal experience. Was it ever even a claim that open source search engines were trying to outperform google, let alone kill it?

Apache Solr / Lucene

Elasticsearch

Just like most people use Facebook or Insta for personal webpages instead of rolling their own, most people will use commercial AI forever.

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