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Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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Well the site does not present Texas in a good light. Their .gov site presents me with this. Looks like they need to worry about their own site instead of worrying about out of state sites. >Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead > Firefox detected a potential security threat and did not continue to www.texasattorneygeneral.gov. If you visit this site, attackers could try to steal information like your passwords, ema…

It's being served by cloudflare and gets A+ from ssllabs. Maybe there's something going on with your network or your browser's TLS support.

> served by cloudflare

Maybe that's the security threat. Cloudflare MITMs all traffic.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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post #73

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We literally already have one of those. Each country has a .XX TLD, and all other TLDs are for the USA.

Even .horse?

Take a look at the list of new generic TLDs that are run by Donuts LLC now Identity Digital, a US based company.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_Digital

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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post #214

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I hate how quickly some people have just accepted age verification is inevitable.

You got an alternative proposal? You could run you and 537 of your best friends for Congress and make it illegal

I'm not American. Nor is Motherless. And yet...

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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post #263

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You got an alternative proposal? You could run you and 537 of your best friends for Congress and make it illegal

I'm not American. Nor is Motherless. And yet...

.com is American.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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> It operates in Texas if it is serving Texas users. What do you mean "serves"? Does that just mean not actively blocking users from Texas? Allowing your web site to be accessible regardless of user location is, and always has been, the default way to run a web site. Your assertion would mean that web site operators are beholden to the laws of all jurisdictions on the planet if they don't actively block those users.…

> Think about what a bad precedent that would be. Some countries criminalize promotion of pro-LGBT+ content. What if those countries suddenly demand extradition of people who run pro-LGBT+ blogs because the web sites are available there? Simple: a local court having jurisdiction over those individuals would utilize their own laws and discretion to decide if they are required to extradite these people. If a country ch…

Multiple times now in this thread you've parroted "might makes right" as if it's some universal axiom or law of physics (such as gravity, or the speed of light). This is what you actually believe as a moral guiding principle? Further, it seems to be presented in such a way to justify actions taken by one aggressive party in a legal dispute as inevitable, and therefore not worth forming any organized resistance to. Just roll over, show your belly, submit meekly to the more powerful (whomever), and accept your fate.

I'm honestly wondering what sort of person goes through life like that.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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post #236

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> Think about what a bad precedent that would be. Some countries criminalize promotion of pro-LGBT+ content. What if those countries suddenly demand extradition of people who run pro-LGBT+ blogs because the web sites are available there? Simple: a local court having jurisdiction over those individuals would utilize their own laws and discretion to decide if they are required to extradite these people. If a country ch…

Multiple times now in this thread you've parroted "might makes right" as if it's some universal axiom or law of physics (such as gravity, or the speed of light). This is what you actually believe as a moral guiding principle? Further, it seems to be presented in such a way to justify actions taken by one aggressive party in a legal dispute as inevitable, and therefore not worth forming any organized resistance to. Ju…

> Further, it seems to be presented in such a way to justify actions taken by one aggressive party in a legal dispute as inevitable

You're free to fight back and contest it and be the Erin Brockovich you've always wanted to be - that is freedom. But the rest of us in reality understand how diplomacy, politics, and economic activity works.

Interest (and by proxy, money) succeeds. People at large (not just neurodivergent, computer-employed, left-leaning folks) aren't all that interested in protecting your friendly neighborhood porn site (even if they frequent it or would be upset if it shut down), so these businesses lose.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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post #227

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> travel to Texas without risk of arrest This isn't some "non-extradition country without a treaty" scenario - "neener neener, if I don't step foot in your area you can't touch me." The United States does still have a functioning Constitution. If Texas wants to arrest an employee of these organizations, they can simply issue a Texan arrest warrant and other States will be compelled to enforce it.

Can Texas compel other states to arrest abortion clinic workers?

Did those abortion clinic workers perform an abortion in Texas? Then yes, they can.

This website was providing services to the people of Texas, and Verisign provides services to the people of Texas as well.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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post #33

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But that, more appropriately, only affects internet users in that country (ignoring the cloudflare network blocking that causes various other sites to also be blocked). This appears to basically wipe the site from the entire internet, for all countries.

When you create the infrastructure, you make the rules. If a party doesn't like those rules, they are free to create their own replacement infrastructure and obtain global buy-in. ccTLDs already exist and their respective countries have sovereignty over those TLDs: the UK can disappear any .uk domain name it wants from the global internet. The .com TLD is American, and is therefore subject to American legal proceedin…

Yeah, that whole setup stinks. It actually gives a great use case to alternative DNS and decentralized infrastructure.

Multiple Internets over Internet time. Sadly. Some damage can't be routed around.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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post #33

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When you create the infrastructure, you make the rules. If a party doesn't like those rules, they are free to create their own replacement infrastructure and obtain global buy-in. ccTLDs already exist and their respective countries have sovereignty over those TLDs: the UK can disappear any .uk domain name it wants from the global internet. The .com TLD is American, and is therefore subject to American legal proceedin…

> The .com TLD is American, and is therefore subject too American legal proceedings This is not an "American" proceeding so much as a Texan one, and it's not clear that the State of Texas should have any jurisdiction over the .com TLD.

As much as I agree, I think Texas is within their rights to ask Verisign to perform a massively overbroad action.

Verisign is likely to respond depending on how good they think the relationship is between Texan lawmakers and the current Whitehouse administration.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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post #263

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I'm not American. Nor is Motherless. And yet...

.com is American.

But should it be? Verisign having control over it is a weird historical artifact of the early days of the internet.
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