FAA lets Boeing sign off on 737 MAX, 787 airworthiness certificates again • Hacker News Board

Re: FAA lets Boeing sign off on 737 MAX, 787 airworthiness certificates again

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Post by kube-system » Fri, Jul 17, 2026, 10:33 PM UTC

greatgib wrote: post #2

Totally insane. Repeating the same errors as in the past and hoping for a better outcome... Only corruption can explain that...

I have read that self-issuance of airworthiness certificates has been normal since the 1950s. Given that, I don't think the issue is due to regulatory corruption but an issue at Boeing which has (hopefully) been resolved.

Re: FAA lets Boeing sign off on 737 MAX, 787 airworthiness certificates again

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Post by pudgywalsh » Fri, Jul 17, 2026, 10:37 PM UTC

bushido wrote: post #7

The 737 has had 14 major recertifications. The aircraft today looks/behaves nothing like the original from the 1960s. The main motivation for recertifications comes from commercial pressure where if a aircraft is given a new number and not recertified, then the pilots have to be retrained. Honestly, back when the 737 MAX debacle happened, a lot of consumers claimed that they would stop flying aircrafts if they ran in…

Consumers are indeed very concerned... that they be able to purchase £49 tickets on RyanAir.

Re: FAA lets Boeing sign off on 737 MAX, 787 airworthiness certificates again

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Post by kube-system » Fri, Jul 17, 2026, 10:40 PM UTC

markasoftware wrote: post #12

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This is not exactly the same thing, this isn't Boeing being allowed to sign off on their design -- this is only the airworthiness certificate which means "this particular airplane we just built follows the spec which was already otherwise approved".

Re: FAA lets Boeing sign off on 737 MAX, 787 airworthiness certificates again

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Post by kube-system » Fri, Jul 17, 2026, 10:41 PM UTC

bushido wrote: post #7

The 737 has had 14 major recertifications. The aircraft today looks/behaves nothing like the original from the 1960s. The main motivation for recertifications comes from commercial pressure where if a aircraft is given a new number and not recertified, then the pilots have to be retrained. Honestly, back when the 737 MAX debacle happened, a lot of consumers claimed that they would stop flying aircrafts if they ran in…

The #1 rule of marketing is that people's actions rarely line up with what they say they're going to do.

Re: FAA lets Boeing sign off on 737 MAX, 787 airworthiness certificates again

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jul 17, 2026, 10:42 PM UTC

pudgywalsh wrote: post #22

bushido wrote: post #7

The 737 has had 14 major recertifications. The aircraft today looks/behaves nothing like the original from the 1960s. The main motivation for recertifications comes from commercial pressure where if a aircraft is given a new number and not recertified, then the pilots have to be retrained. Honestly, back when the 737 MAX debacle happened, a lot of consumers claimed that they would stop flying aircrafts if they ran in…

Consumers are indeed very concerned... that they be able to purchase £49 tickets on RyanAir.

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Re: FAA lets Boeing sign off on 737 MAX, 787 airworthiness certificates again

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Post by greenleafone7 » Fri, Jul 17, 2026, 10:45 PM UTC

Yeah, not thanks. A company being kept alive by the US government is not one I'll ever trust with my life.

Re: FAA lets Boeing sign off on 737 MAX, 787 airworthiness certificates again

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Post by ronnieron » Fri, Jul 17, 2026, 10:46 PM UTC

I only fly airbus. If it’s Boeing, I ain’t going.

Re: FAA lets Boeing sign off on 737 MAX, 787 airworthiness certificates again

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Post by estearum » Fri, Jul 17, 2026, 10:47 PM UTC

rogerrogerr wrote: post #20

cebert wrote: post #5

This is absolutely frightening.

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Wow you got 'em.

Oncologist: You have Stage 4 cancer

You: Wow, that's frightening

Oncologist: You've had it at least since September, were you frightened then?

Brilliant argument. No longer concerned!

Re: FAA lets Boeing sign off on 737 MAX, 787 airworthiness certificates again

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Post by cromka » Fri, Jul 17, 2026, 10:48 PM UTC

rogerrogerr wrote: post #20

cebert wrote: post #5

This is absolutely frightening.

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What if they didn't know that and simply assumed self-certification simply would never happen again?

Or are you implying that "since no plane crashed since September, they're safe going forward"?

"Read the article". Clearly reading is not enough.

Re: FAA lets Boeing sign off on 737 MAX, 787 airworthiness certificates again

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Post by cindyllm » Fri, Jul 17, 2026, 10:48 PM UTC

shevy-java wrote: post #9

bob001 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's see if the EU shows some backbone or not.

The EU is like a tiger - without teeth, fur or claws. I think the only thing that works here is total boycott of airplanes that constantly unalive people through mass crashes. (Wikipedia really gathers useful data here in a simple-to-read manner: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incident... )

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