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FAA lets Boeing sign off on 737 MAX, 787 airworthiness certificates again

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Re: FAA lets Boeing sign off on 737 MAX, 787 airworthiness certificates again

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Post by worik »

shevy-java wrote: post #9
bob001 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's see if the EU shows some backbone or not.

The EU is like a tiger - without teeth, fur or claws. I think the only thing that works here is total boycott of airplanes that constantly unalive people through mass crashes. (Wikipedia really gathers useful data here in a simple-to-read manner: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incident... )

Interesting analogy, maybe a house cat?

I think a better analogy is "The EU is like a lumbering elephant. You can steer it, but only if you know how. Otherwise it just keeps on lumbering"

Airbus was a bureaucrats wet dream, and by modern Biz Bro standards should never have got off the ground.

Now it rules the skies. Boeing, having drunk the financial Kool Aid is wilting

Tortoise and the hare?

Re: FAA lets Boeing sign off on 737 MAX, 787 airworthiness certificates again

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Post by moomin »

worik wrote: post #11
shevy-java wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The EU is like a tiger - without teeth, fur or claws. I think the only thing that works here is total boycott of airplanes that constantly unalive people through mass crashes. (Wikipedia really gathers useful data here in a simple-to-read manner: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incident... )

Interesting analogy, maybe a house cat? I think a better analogy is "The EU is like a lumbering elephant. You can steer it, but only if you know how. Otherwise it just keeps on lumbering" Airbus was a bureaucrats wet dream, and by modern Biz Bro standards should never have got off the ground. Now it rules the skies. Boeing, having drunk the financial Kool Aid is wilting Tortoise and the hare?

It turns out that sometimes you really do want health and safety obsessed bureaucrats.

Re: FAA lets Boeing sign off on 737 MAX, 787 airworthiness certificates again

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Post by munk-a »

Just to comprehend this a bit better - it sounds like the FAA had stripped Boeing of the ability to self-recertify and actually sent inspectors for the most recent certifications. After several successful certifications and what would appear, to the inspectors, to be real process improvements, they're now re-granting Boeing the ability to self-recertify when self-recertification is allowed?

This is well outside my knowledge domain so I'm not trying to make any statements on whether this was correct, but rather to better comprehend the change.

Re: FAA lets Boeing sign off on 737 MAX, 787 airworthiness certificates again

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Post by rogerrogerr »

munk-a wrote: post #17

Just to comprehend this a bit better - it sounds like the FAA had stripped Boeing of the ability to self-recertify and actually sent inspectors for the most recent certifications. After several successful certifications and what would appear, to the inspectors, to be real process improvements, they're now re-granting Boeing the ability to self-recertify when self-recertification is allowed? This is well outside my kn…

This is accurate, except “recertify” is the wrong verb. This is about signing off on individual airplanes.
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