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Re: Meta trying to destroy whistleblower Sarah Wynn-Williams, US senator says

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Post by jauntywundrkind »

Cory Doctorow had a great write up two weeks ago, Zuckerberg's increasingly bizarre war on whistleblowers https://pluralistic.net/2026/06/27/zuckerstreisand-2/#autodi...

His end thesis is that even though Meta knows of the Streisand effect, even though they full on expect to lose, badly, and look like bullies chuds and losers, with no real defense, they are doing it to keep everyone else who works or worked at Meta on line, to engage in gratuitous overkill as a message. Sounds about right!

He also had a very excellent piece on pro-Monopolists like Thiel, which just feels so close a breed of absolute deranged fucking madness. Excellent read. Realest of real problems. Deranged billionaires and their syndromes, https://pluralistic.net/2026/07/16/lucky-orifices/

Re: Meta trying to destroy whistleblower Sarah Wynn-Williams, US senator says

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Post by fivetenpen »

fsloth wrote: post #3

If you loved Catch-22 you will love ”Careless people”! I warmly recommend a read. Not to support Sarah necessarily - just because the book is great! It’s not really a spill-the-tea as much absurdist escapade in corporate america. Ok the details on Zuckerberg and ”Lean In” Sandberg _are_ bizarre. Which makes it a super fun read.

I’m listening to the audiobook now and it’s captivating. These meta executives really live in a different world. The part with Sandburg and Sarah on the plane was absolutely wild. I can take a good guess at who is leading the charge to silence Sarah after reading that.

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Post by tim-tday »

fsloth wrote: post #3

If you loved Catch-22 you will love ”Careless people”! I warmly recommend a read. Not to support Sarah necessarily - just because the book is great! It’s not really a spill-the-tea as much absurdist escapade in corporate america. Ok the details on Zuckerberg and ”Lean In” Sandberg _are_ bizarre. Which makes it a super fun read.

I love the Streisand effect in play here.

Sucks that she’s getting attacked. Hopefully the punitive damages she wins will be staggering.

Re: Meta trying to destroy whistleblower Sarah Wynn-Williams, US senator says

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Post by utdoctor »

fsloth wrote: post #3

If you loved Catch-22 you will love ”Careless people”! I warmly recommend a read. Not to support Sarah necessarily - just because the book is great! It’s not really a spill-the-tea as much absurdist escapade in corporate america. Ok the details on Zuckerberg and ”Lean In” Sandberg _are_ bizarre. Which makes it a super fun read.

I’m a bit over halfway through the book after purchasing it based off the premise alone and, I may be in the minority, but I find her insufferable and very naive.

On more than one occasion makes comparisons to the lofty idealized and non pragmatic goals of governmental institutions like the UN and seems bewildered that a business like Meta doesn’t (obviously) have the same aspirations/alignment.

She just reminds me of a very naive college student from what I’ve read thus far. Grinds my gears but I’m going to finish it.

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Post by andor »

utdoctor wrote: post #15
fsloth wrote: post #3

If you loved Catch-22 you will love ”Careless people”! I warmly recommend a read. Not to support Sarah necessarily - just because the book is great! It’s not really a spill-the-tea as much absurdist escapade in corporate america. Ok the details on Zuckerberg and ”Lean In” Sandberg _are_ bizarre. Which makes it a super fun read.

I’m a bit over halfway through the book after purchasing it based off the premise alone and, I may be in the minority, but I find her insufferable and very naive. On more than one occasion makes comparisons to the lofty idealized and non pragmatic goals of governmental institutions like the UN and seems bewildered that a business like Meta doesn’t (obviously) have the same aspirations/alignment. She just reminds me o…

So you’re saying that it’s naive to expect a company to care whether they are facilitating a genocide in one of their growth markets?

You must be fun to work with

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Post by watwut »

utdoctor wrote: post #15
fsloth wrote: post #3

If you loved Catch-22 you will love ”Careless people”! I warmly recommend a read. Not to support Sarah necessarily - just because the book is great! It’s not really a spill-the-tea as much absurdist escapade in corporate america. Ok the details on Zuckerberg and ”Lean In” Sandberg _are_ bizarre. Which makes it a super fun read.

I’m a bit over halfway through the book after purchasing it based off the premise alone and, I may be in the minority, but I find her insufferable and very naive. On more than one occasion makes comparisons to the lofty idealized and non pragmatic goals of governmental institutions like the UN and seems bewildered that a business like Meta doesn’t (obviously) have the same aspirations/alignment. She just reminds me o…

I think yes, she is naive. She understands diplomacy, but is perpetually surprised by politics of the situation. But, if she was not naive, she would either leave much sooner or comfortably fit into the dark side.

Also, when I read the description of the workplace, between dleep deprivation and isolation from non facebook people, everyone ends up in a bit of "cult group" thinking. That makes you even less likely to think accurately about what goes on around you.

Re: Meta trying to destroy whistleblower Sarah Wynn-Williams, US senator says

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Post by watwut »

andor wrote: post #18
utdoctor wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m a bit over halfway through the book after purchasing it based off the premise alone and, I may be in the minority, but I find her insufferable and very naive. On more than one occasion makes comparisons to the lofty idealized and non pragmatic goals of governmental institutions like the UN and seems bewildered that a business like Meta doesn’t (obviously) have the same aspirations/alignment. She just reminds me o…

So you’re saying that it’s naive to expect a company to care whether they are facilitating a genocide in one of their growth markets? You must be fun to work with

At one point, she makes Zuckenberg meet with presidents who consider facebook harfull. It is around after everyone realizes facebook decides elections.

She expects presidents to tell Zuckenberg about harms of facebook. To kind of unload onto him, so that Zuckenberg stop doing bad things. Instead, presidents kiss his ass ... probably to get help in the next election.

It is this sort of thing that makes her come accross naive.

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